Lost

AmroodWaala · #**346** (**permalink**) 05-30-2008, 08:35 PM

more on Jin's death:

"Don't feel dumb! About half the people I was watching with were all in the same boat as you, and we are all smart, wise, savvy, intelligent thoughtful viewers!!

I think I only wasn't as confused bc I had read a post where someone guessed they'd do a flash back and flash forward together. Actually, you picked up on an important point: the writers chose that scene with Jin because the whole episode was designed to demonstrate to the audience that Jin really HAS genuinely made a change for the better -- he's been transformed and "reborn" on the island. So, in a way, Ji Yeon wasn't the only birth of the episode. Jin facing Sun's terrible lie and then FORGIVING her was the moment JIn was reborn on the island. I think I'd mark that moment as one of the greatest achievements of the entire Lost series -- showing the story of a character's rebirth is not easy, and I think Lost writers achieved something truly great here.

And, I wouldn't have understood that as much until you posted about how in this episode's flashbacks, we are seeing the "old ways" of Jin. Very smart observation -- it's the only way Jin's moment of redemption through forgiveness could have worked as a story -- we had to see the old ways and realize that he's had many false rebirths (moments off and on island when he felt bad about what he did, maybe, and felt true remorse and guilt and love) but the only true eternally transforming one was when he is faced with the opportunity to forgive Sun and takes that opportunity. From then on, JIn is eternally transformed and reborn. So, forgiveness = redemption."
Lost Theories - Lost Thoery - "Ji Yeon" - Is Jin Dead?

sumiyia · #**347** (**permalink**) 05-30-2008, 08:41 PM

i miss jin

sally · #**348** (**permalink**) 05-30-2008, 08:49 PM

amroodwala do you or do you not watch lost?

moonlightrose · #**349** (**permalink**) 05-30-2008, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by AmroodWaala

what about his gravestone? it clearly said Sep 04

sept 04 was when the plane crashed on the island.

sally · #**350** (**permalink**) 05-30-2008, 08:59 PM

okkk then feel free to stop posting in here

vegetables · #**351** (**permalink**) 05-30-2008, 09:01 PM

i like how Rose was being a sassy black lady when she was talking to that asian guy about the food

AmroodWaala · #**352** (**permalink**) 05-30-2008, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by moonlightrose

sept 04 was when the plane crashed on the island.

you are right. come to think of it, the only people that know the truth are the Oceanic Six and whoever is involved with the Oceanic Six conspiracy. For some reason they have to uphold that lie. In my opinion, somehow the 6 were rescued but had to leave everyone else behind. I dont know why they would do that.

AmroodWaala · #**353** (**permalink**) 05-30-2008, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by sally

okkk then feel free to stop posting in here

fine.

moonlightrose · #**354** (**permalink**) 05-30-2008, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by AmroodWaala

you are right. come to think of it, the only people that know the truth are the Oceanic Six and whoever is involved with the Oceanic Six conspiracy. For some reason they have to uphold that lie. In my opinion, somehow the 6 were rescued but had to leave everyone else behind. I dont know why they would do that.

you should really watch the show.

hijabihoodlum · #**355** (**permalink**) 05-30-2008, 09:26 PM

so, how about someone do a favor and sum up the WHOLE DANGED THING in like, a couple sentences. break it down; i know it's possible.

iTz_NoT_Me_iTzZu · #**356** (**permalink**) 05-30-2008, 11:25 PM

did anyone else think HURLEY shouldve jumped off the hellicopter instead of sawyer? I wouldve pushed him off! :cackle:

vegetables · #**357** (**permalink**) 05-30-2008, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by iTz_NoT_Me_iTzZu

did anyone else think HURLEY shouldve jumped off the hellicopter instead of sawyer? I wouldve pushed him off! :cackle:

bwhaha did you see his face when they said they needed to drop more weight? his heart sunk. poor guy wouldn't have made it to island

iTz_NoT_Me_iTzZu · #**358** (**permalink**) 05-30-2008, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by vegetables

bwhaha did you see his face when they said they needed to drop more weight? his heart sunk. poor guy wouldn't have made it to island

it's his own fault for not losing weight after being stranded on a DESERT island

vegetables · #**359** (**permalink**) 05-30-2008, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by iTz_NoT_Me_iTzZu

it's his own fault for not losing weight after being stranded on a DESERT island

i suppose he could have done a few laps around the island during the past 3 months... but then there would be no fat man comic relief

sally · #**360** (**permalink**) 05-30-2008, 11:55 PM

(12:53:38 AM) Spice: i didnt watch lost
(12:53:43 AM) sally: dude
(12:53:44 AM) sally: watch it
(12:53:48 AM) Spice: dont tell me anything
(12:53:52 AM) sally: hurley died
(12:53:54 AM) Spice: i know i was out yesterday
(12:53:55 AM) Spice: exam
(12:53:57 AM) Spice: FRIGNI
(12:53:58 AM) Spice: YOU
(12:53:59 AM) Spice: UGH
(12:54:01 AM) Spice: SALLY
(12:54:02 AM) Spice: WTH

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Originally Posted by hijabihoodlum

so, how about someone do a favor and sum up the WHOLE DANGED THING in like, a couple sentences. break it down; i know it's possible.

no...get out of here you mudblood!