[Revert]

Originally Posted by Spice

Was that her name? and whatever happened to her?

Sayyid married her and she got killed by an arab dude.

[sumiyia]

Originally Posted by sally

i cant stand juliet. she's too fake/robotic. i cant tell if she's a terrible actress or whether it's her character.

and watching her give people orders was priceless. i'm surprised anyone listened. the woman has no backbone.

I HAAAAAAAAAAATE JULIET!!!! she only knows ONE smile... that gross prune faced one that looks like this half the time yuckkkkkkk

[moonlightrose]

Originally Posted by Revert

Sayyid married her and she got killed by an arab dude.

actually I think ben killed nadia....and then he made saeed a terrorist...it all makes sense if you think about it

[Spice]

I finally caught up with the couple of episodes I missed.
Nadias death-major disappointment, ugh. I really would like to have seen Saeed involved in something personal after he gets off the island. Theyre making him look like a typical on the run terrorist dude- not very fun to watch anymore. Should make his character a little more dynamic. But even then, he's my favourite character.

Sawyer: I really like how his character is developing into something useful. His care for Claire, baby and Hurls is the sweetest thing Totally big brotherish and protective.

Hurls: is an idiot. He shouldve let Sawyer shoot Locke on the spot.

Ben and Locke: I'm not a fan of their tag team. And Ben- should totally get rid of Penny. As cute as her thing with Desmond maybe, screw that. An eye for an eye!

Juliet: needs to die. I still dont trust her.

Dumb red head chic: Whats with her constant eye rolling and stuff? she seems entirely unsure of herself.

Also Sawyer staying back was totally predictable.

[nooni]

that was a GREAT episode !!

SPOILERS:







ok so i think claire is dead when her house got blown up and thats why she was with her dad, locke is special and therefore can see dead ppl but the only contradiction with that is how could sawyer see her too.

oh and NOT gonna lie, i had my hand over my eyes the whole time right before they showed christian LOL and then again claire.

the time theory pretty much is almost proven by this episode, in last weeks episode the doctor showed up with his throat slit and this week is when we saw it happen.




wow wow wow just an awesome episode :faint faint:

[slime]

okay so i didn't understand this from tonight's episode:

why was michael all beaten up and locked in that room?
who did keamy take the key from? the captain? why did they have to resort to emergency protocol?
how come the captain decides to help sayid take the boat and stuff? i know its cuz keamy is taking over the ship but was there something else? i dont remember....cuz the captain is working for widmore so why would he help sayid?
what happened in the first 15 mins? cuz i missed the part before the credits.
when locke is a baby...who is the older lady who wants to light a cigarette? his grandma?
when locke was like 5 yrs old and alpert comes to visit him, who is he staying with?

clearly i dont have a long attention span.

i dont like keamy. he should be on wwe not on lost.
also, i think locke was supposed to be the leader of the others but he just wasn't ready so ben became the leader.

[nooni]

slime,

did u read about the time line theory? it will help explain alot of things. sumi posted a link a few pages back.

Originally Posted by slime

how come the captain decides to help sayid take the boat and stuff? i know its cuz keamy is taking over the ship but was there something else? i dont remember....cuz the captain is working for widmore so why would he help sayid?
.

the captain prolly felt threatened by kimy. kimi seemed to noe more about things going on then he did. so the captian was prolly just questioning what he has been told before.

Originally Posted by slime

why was michael all beaten up and locked in that room?
who did keamy take the key from? the captain? why did they have to resort to emergency protocol?
.

i think thats gonna be answered later. with the whole time line theory, its pretty crazy.

Originally Posted by slime

what happened in the first 15 mins? cuz i missed the part before the credits.
when locke is a baby...who is the older lady who wants to light a cigarette? his grandma?
when locke was like 5 yrs old and alpert comes to visit him, who is he staying with?

locke is born a premie out of wedlock. hes put into an incubator, nurse says its a miracle he survived. nurse told lockes mom that he is going to be able to get out of the incubator and lockes mom can hold him for hte first time, and she freaks out and runs away.

gramma is the one who wanted to light the cigarrette. nurse asks her if guy in the back is the father. she doesnt noe but she turns and its richard. fast forward about five years, richard comes to test him and see if he is special, we can only assume that the family he is with is his adopted family because his gramma mentioned something abt adoption.

[nooni]

heres a good explanation provided by someone named John McKinnon on facebook. he did a very good job and i have to give credit where credit is due....

Chart 1:



This chart represents our timeline. I know the writers said that there are no parallel realities, but I believe that they were purposely being ambiguous when they said this. They were trying to make the point that the flashforwards were definitely going to happen, so when they said "there are no parallel realities" I believe they meant parallel realities cannot be maintained. (In other words, course-correction) Face it, we have seen two series of "parallel events" when Desmond goes to the ring shop.

So, let's look at Desmond's consciousness as it moves through time. Des leads a pretty normal life, travelling along what we'll call "the main timeline" (the straight, dark green one) and ignoring all other realities. When he finally reaches 2004, he turns the failsafe key and his consciousness is sent back in time (dotted green line) to 1996.

Now Desmond is reliving the same point in time, but he is privy to extra knowledge, making him behave differently. These alternate actions on his part create an alternate set of events (represented by the red line). The way that the universe works, however, is by "course-correcting"...ie it fixes any changes made by the time traveller and returns the universe to its pre-destined path. Those changes still happened, but they are irrelevent because they have no long-lasting effect. This course-correction is represented by the purple line.

In Desmond's case, the red line is created by him buying the ring, visiting his physicist friend, talking to Charlie, and numerous other things he does differently. His purple line begins when Ms. Hawking tries to convince him to give the ring back. Desmond wants to stay on the red line, control his own fate, but the universe wins and he throws the ring away (purple line here).

As the alternate events begin to grow closer to the "original events", Desmond is knocked out in a bar and his consciousness returns to 2004, just after the blast. Presumably, back in 1996, Des wakes up in the bar, unaware of anything that's just happened (since his 1996 mind has returned) and the timeline moves smoothly along as if Desmond had never time travelled in the first place.

[nooni]

part two.............

Chart 2:



This chart is a little more complicated. I think the easiest way to describe this one is by imagining "information" (usually about Charlie's death) as moving back in time (dotted green line). Some of you may wish to reverse this and instead view Desmond's consciousness travelling forward in time for just a moment. The result is the same.

So, let's look at the "main timeline" (dark green). If Desmond had not received his first vision, Charlie would have been struck by lightning (pink square 1). The timeline then would have continued with Charlie of course being dead the whole time. Instead, information was sent back in time (or Des' mind jumped forward, then back) and Desmond was able to prevent a Charlie barbeque. These alternate actions created the first red-line of alternate events.

Now let's imagine the Desmond didn't get any more visions. The universe would have slowly course-corrected (purple line) and made certain that future events happened the way they were supposed to. Charlie has to die (pink square 2) before any events can play out the way they're supposed to (since he is dead in the main timeline). So he would have died and the universe is eventually fixed.

Unfortunately, Desmond saw that second death (drowning I believe) and he acted on it again. This created an alternate version of events before the first alternate could even fix itself (second red line). Now, if Desmond had let that timeline play out, the universe would have killed Charlie again, by making him fall on the rocks (pink square 3).

I think you see the pattern by now, every time the universe makes a plan to correct the timeline, Desmond catches wind of it and creates an alternate set of events. Pink square 4 is where Charlie would have been shot in the neck with an arrow. And pink square 5 is where Des and Charlie stopped running from Fate and Charlie let himself die. Eventually, the universe will even itself out now and get back to the main timeline, but whether we've reached that point already is debatable. I don't think we have.

[nooni]

part 3..............

Chart 3:



This chart is kind of jumbled, but I tried to make it as readable as I could. You'll notice right away that some of the arrows are jumping forwards. These arrows again represent the jump Desmond's consciousness takes through time. A new color is also introduced; blue represents the period of time when Desmond's body is unconscious.

So we start out with the main green timeline. Desmond leads a perfectly normal life (ignoring all arrows) until 2004. Here, an event causes his 1996 mind to jump into his 2004 body. This act of time travel interferes with the pre-destined timeline and creates the red line of alternate events in 2004 as well as an alternate series of events in 1996 (where in this case he is not just sleeping in his army cot, his mind is actually missing). Very quickly, before course-correction even begins to set in, Desmond's mind is sent back to 96. Here, he has access to knowledge from the future and thus continues the red line of alternate events in 1996.

Again, before course-correction sets in, his mind is sent back to 2004, at some point after it left but before course-correction was completed. We can again see how the universe would have corrected itself, had 96 Des not come back, but now he has, and he is creating another alternate sequence. This back-and-forth repeats quite a few more times, but I only included a few to simplify the diagram...hopefully I've made the pattern clear.

Eventually, Desmond's 96 mind returns to 96 for good and his 2004 mind (presumably) returns to him, allowing both portions of the timeline to course-correct and align with the "proper" timeline.

I hope this has been able to help some dedicated LOST fans out there

[farah]

(but that helped a lot, nouha. thanks!)

[sumiyia]

craaaaaaaaaazy... I LOVE/HATE THIS SHOW!!!!!

[slime]

whooooa. my head is going to explode.

[sally]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah i hate/love this show

it is so darn frustrating

in the beginning, when john, ben and hurley are arguing over which way they're headed and who to follow, i was basically like, oh BOY. this sounds like a kindergarten show. OMG WHICH WAY DO WE GO. LET'S ASK DORA. wait, forget it...we'll just go to sleep randomly in the middle of the forest and wait for a dream to guide us

...

these LOSTies need to do some hardcore istikhara.

so like now, since the show has been dragging forever and half..everytime they show the characters confused about life, which is like 99.9% of each episode, i'm thinking, man. i wish sayid could do some dawah and convert them all to islam..cuz this is what happens when you think too much about life and destiny

[slime]

locke and ben are soooo brothers.

also, the census bureau just said that Emily and Jacob top the most popular baby names list for like a billionth year in a row.
hmmmmmmmm