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#1 User is offline   Kamasatti 

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Posted 29 March 2011 - 11:54 AM

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I hate to say I told you so, but...

Foreward by Kevin Barrett

Back in February, I wrote an op-ed entitled "Wisconsin Governor admits to plotting false-flag terror; media averts eyes." By normally-accepted standards of quality -- freshness, communicative effectiveness, importance of content, ability to grab the reader's attention, and so on -- it was at least as good as anything published on any editorial page in Wisconsin this year. Yet (surprise, surprise) no local print outlet would publish it.

In my February op-ed, I explained that: "False-flag terror is the oldest and arguably most powerful trick in the book of governments. By stirring up trouble and spreading fear, rulers trick the people into begging them - the rulers - for security at any price. Whether you are a state governor or the President of the United States or a tinpot dictator like Mubarak, the best way to augment your power is to hire special ops professionals to dress up as 'terrorists' and perpetrate violence. You can then blame the violence on your political enemies, destroy those enemies, consolidate power, and rule unopposed."

As it turns out, this is exactly what Indiana prosecutor and Republican activist Carlos Lam urged Wisconsin governor Scott Walker to do! As Raw Story reported Thursday:


Indiana prosecutor told Wisconsin governor to stage ‘false flag’ operation

An Indiana prosecutor and Republican activist has resigned after emails show he suggested Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker stage a fake attack on himself to discredit unions protesting his budget repair bill.

The Republican governor signed a bill on March 11 that eliminates most union rights for public employees.

In an email from February 19, Indiana deputy prosecutor Carlos F. Lam told Walker the situation presented "a good opportunity for what’s called a ‘false flag’ operation."

The Wisconsin Center for Investigative Journalism discovered the email among tens of thousands released to the public last week following a lawsuit by the Isthmus and the Associated Press.

"If you could employ an associate who pretends to be sympathetic to the unions' cause to physically attack you (or even use a firearm against you), you could discredit the unions," Lam said in his email.

"Currently, the media is painting the union protest as a democratic uprising and failing to mention the role of the DNC and umbrella union organizations in the protest," he continued. "Employing a false flag operation would assist in undercutting any support that the media may be creating in favor of the unions."
(full story: Indiana prosecutor told Wisconsin governor to stage ‘false flag’ operation)

When will the media wake up and inform the people that false-flag terror is not only extremely common, but arguably THE most powerful tool of unscrupulous rulers? That the minute a neocon Republican gets in trouble, he thinks about calling in the special ops pros for a false-flag?

I'll tell you when: They'll do it when they're finally forced to admit that, as Geraldo put it, those "obnoxious" 9/11 truthers were right all along.

And when that happens, would it be obnoxious, or only fair, to say "I told you so"? And to add "if you had listened then, millions of murdered people would still be alive" ?

Western Governments admit Carrying out "False Flag" Terror

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Forget the claims and allegations that false flag terror – governments attacking people and then blaming others in order to create animosity towards those blamed – has been used throughout history.

This essay will solely discuss government admissions to the use of false flag terror.

For example:

■ The CIA admits that it hired Iranians in the 1950′s to pose as Communists and stage bombings in Iran in order to turn the country against its democratically-elected president

■ Israel admits that an Israeli terrorist cell operating in Egypt planted bombs in several buildings, including U.S. diplomatic facilities, then left behind “evidence” implicating the Arabs as the culprits (one of the bombs detonated prematurely, allowing the Egyptians to identify the bombers, and several of the Israelis later confessed) (and see this and this)

■ The well-respected former Indonesian president admits that the government probably had a role in the Bali bombings

■ The former Italian Prime Minister, an Italian judge, and the former head of Italian counterintelligence admit that NATO, with the help of the Pentagon and CIA, carried out terror bombings in Italy and blamed the communists, in order to rally people’s support for their governments in Europe in their fight against communism. As one participant in this formerly-secret program stated: “You had to attack civilians, people, women, children, innocent people, unknown people far removed from any political game. The reason was quite simple. They were supposed to force these people, the Italian public, to turn to the state to ask for greater security” (and see this)(Italy joined NATO in 1949, years before the bombings occurred)

■ As admitted by the U.S. government, recently declassified documents show that in the 1960′s, the American Joint Chiefs of Staff signed off on a plan to blow up AMERICAN airplanes (using an elaborate plan involving the switching of airplanes), and also to commit terrorist acts on American soil, and then to blame it on the Cubans in order to justify an invasion of Cuba. See the following ABC news report; the official documents; and watch this interview with the former Washington Investigative Producer for ABC’s World News Tonight with Peter Jennings*

There are many other instances of false flag attacks used throughout history proven by the historical evidence. See this, this and this. The above are only some examples of governments admitting to using false flag terror.

You can’t call it a conspiracy theory when the government itself admits it.

And this is not just ancient history:

■Jimmy Carter’s former National Security Adviser – Zbigniew Brzezinski – told the Senate that a terrorist act might be carried out in the U.S. and falsely blamed on Iran to justify war against that nation

■A retired 27-year CIA analyst who prepared and presented Presidential Daily Briefs and served as a high-level analyst for several presidents, would not put it past the government to “play fast and loose” with terror alerts and warnings and even events themselves in order to rally people behind the flag

Note: While the Joint Chiefs of Staff pushed for Operation Northwoods to be carried out, cooler heads prevailed; President Kennedy or his Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara apparently vetoed the plan.


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Posted 29 March 2011 - 12:22 PM

seems to me that the new trend is to hire FBI informants to brainwash young Muslims into doing these acts then turn around and arrest them when they do exactly what they FBI just convinced them to do and parade it before the public.
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Posted 29 March 2011 - 01:59 PM

View PostChotooMotoo, on 29 March 2011 - 12:22 PM, said:

seems to me that the new trend is to hire FBI informants to brainwash young Muslims into doing these acts then turn around and arrest them when they do exactly what they FBI just convinced them to do and parade it before the public.


Yup, they did that in Canada too. Between 9/11 and June 2006, there were three attempts by CSIS (Canada's spy agency) to trick young Muslim men into committing questionable acts which would be used to cry wolf. The first two failed - there were minor indictments and deportations - but the third operation found a total of 18 or 19 boys arrested, and some of them put away for 25 years in jail after being found guilty.

The idea is old and its not just governments that do it - corporations do it too to placate their shareholder overlords. When you're under pressure to show results in an environment that isnt conducive to such, then you have to invent lies in order to keep the food chain happy.

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Posted 29 March 2011 - 01:59 PM

View PostChotooMotoo, on 29 March 2011 - 12:22 PM, said:

seems to me that the new trend is to hire FBI informants to brainwash young Muslims into doing these acts then turn around and arrest them when they do exactly what they FBI just convinced them to do and parade it before the public.


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i think that the internet and cell/mobiles phones have made it very difficult for them to maintain the level of secrecy that allowed them to keep a lid on their false flag ops in the recent past.
even certain well concealed facts regarding events of the past have become known due to the internet. it allows one to reach out to millions at the press of a button.
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Posted 29 March 2011 - 02:22 PM

The CIA agent, Raymond Davis who was caputred and then released by Pakistani government was also allegedly involved in supplying WMD's (nuclear weapons of light intensity) to Al-Qaida for some future attacks on US. According to their plan, Pakistan would be attacked by US in retaliation. In other words, 'safe havens' of Al-Qaida would be attacked by them everywhere in Pakistan..and then Pakistan would be denuclearized or their nuclear weapons would be secured by the UN to stop them from reaching the hands of 'terrorists'.
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Posted 29 March 2011 - 02:24 PM

View Postmsmoorad, on 29 March 2011 - 01:59 PM, said:

salaams to all
i think that the internet and cell/mobiles phones have made it very difficult for them to maintain the level of secrecy that allowed them to keep a lid on their false flag ops in the recent past.
even certain well concealed facts regarding events of the past have become known due to the internet. it allows one to reach out to millions at the press of a button.
and Allah ta'ala knows best
jazakallah

Yes but majority of the US/West is dumb, they believe in their Holywood News and Cartoon Network more than they believe in God.
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Posted 29 March 2011 - 04:34 PM

View PostLiberal, on 29 March 2011 - 02:24 PM, said:

Yes but majority of the US/West is dumb, they believe in their Holywood News and Cartoon Network more than they believe in God.

salaams to all
not to mention the many disinfo websites and hasbara trolls on most forums on the net.
they are trying to combat the spread of the truth.
even those that believe in god- their holy books have been altered to such an extent that their religions are now something entirely different from what their respective propthets preached/propogated.

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Posted 31 March 2011 - 12:47 PM

View Postmsmoorad, on 29 March 2011 - 01:59 PM, said:

salaams to all
i think that the internet and cell/mobiles phones have made it very difficult for them to maintain the level of secrecy that allowed them to keep a lid on their false flag ops in the recent past.
even certain well concealed facts regarding events of the past have become known due to the internet. it allows one to reach out to millions at the press of a button.
and Allah ta'ala knows best
jazakallah


I think their solution to that is to drown out the revelation of concealed facts, with irrelevant things and nonsense, so few people take notice.
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Posted 03 April 2011 - 07:56 AM

View PostKamasatti, on 31 March 2011 - 12:47 PM, said:

I think their solution to that is to drown out the revelation of concealed facts, with irrelevant things and nonsense, so few people take notice.


A weak response
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Posted 03 April 2011 - 11:58 AM

View Postroberto, on 03 April 2011 - 07:56 AM, said:

A weak response


No it isn't.
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Posted 05 April 2011 - 02:28 PM

View PostKamasatti, on 03 April 2011 - 11:58 AM, said:

No it isn't.

It is :pityfool:
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Posted 06 April 2011 - 04:55 PM

View Postroberto, on 05 April 2011 - 02:28 PM, said:

It is :pityfool:


Except it isn't.
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Posted 07 April 2011 - 03:12 PM

View PostKamasatti, on 06 April 2011 - 04:55 PM, said:

Except it isn't.

A weak response
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Posted 07 April 2011 - 05:22 PM

View Postroberto, on 07 April 2011 - 03:12 PM, said:

A weak response


No it isn't.
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Posted 08 April 2011 - 10:19 AM

View PostKamasatti, on 07 April 2011 - 05:22 PM, said:

No it isn't.


Come on , you know it is :pityfool:
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Posted 08 April 2011 - 04:43 PM

View Postroberto, on 08 April 2011 - 10:19 AM, said:

Come on , you know it is :pityfool:


Correction, I know that it isn't.
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Posted 09 April 2011 - 06:57 AM

View PostKamasatti, on 08 April 2011 - 04:43 PM, said:

Correction, I know that it isn't.

You have a brain that has been conditioned to reject anything which challenges your beliefs, it’s sad, but you could fight it if you only had the courage to do so
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Posted 09 April 2011 - 09:34 AM

View Postroberto, on 09 April 2011 - 06:57 AM, said:

You have a brain that has been conditioned to reject anything which challenges your beliefs, it’s sad, but you could fight it if you only had the courage to do so


Why do you insist on projecting yourself onto me like this?
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Posted 09 April 2011 - 01:10 PM

View PostKamasatti, on 09 April 2011 - 09:34 AM, said:

Why do you insist on projecting yourself onto me like this?


Tell me at what stage in your life were you conditioned?
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Posted 10 April 2011 - 04:26 AM

View Postroberto, on 09 April 2011 - 01:10 PM, said:

Tell me at what stage in your life were you conditioned?


That didn't answer my question.
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