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#41 User is offline   displaced 

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Posted 06 July 2011 - 09:17 AM

there is no such thing as unconditional love. this is an idea propagated by fairy tales and romance movies. be realistic.
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Posted 07 July 2011 - 03:33 PM

View Postdisplaced, on 06 July 2011 - 09:17 AM, said:

there is no such thing as unconditional love. this is an idea propagated by fairy tales and romance movies. be realistic.


It exists.

It's just that those who haven't experienced it; deny its existence.
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Posted 07 July 2011 - 08:32 PM

what is "real" love?
as opposed to "imaginary" love? "fake" love? "unreal" love? "virtual" love?

love is love. one might express it by sharing one's french fries with another while another might express it by eating ALL of the french fries in question to save their loved one from hypercholesterolemia. what's "real" for one might be stupid for another, and what's real for another might be selfish for yet another. but love is love... it's a good thing to experience, and fortunately/unfortunately, even if it's not "real", sometimes your heart can't tell the difference. cuz love is love...
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Posted 09 July 2011 - 07:07 AM

View PostMarvelicious, on 07 July 2011 - 03:33 PM, said:

It exists.

It's just that those who haven't experienced it; deny its existence.


would you love someone who left you for another man?

who constantly put you down?

who hit you?

come on. this is nonsense we're told exists. it doesn't. real love is based on mutual respect, consideration, mercy, and friendship. it isn't unconditional and you can't take it for granted. it takes effort to maintain. what doesn't take effort is that head in the clouds beginning of the relationship feeling. that goes away, there's no maintaining it in real life..and then people split up because they think it should always be like that if it's right.
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Posted 09 July 2011 - 03:31 PM

View PostMarvelicious, on 07 July 2011 - 03:33 PM, said:

It exists.

It's just that those who haven't experienced it; deny its existence.


Almost everyone who has a parent knows unconditional love. When it comes to spousal/dating sort of relationships I agree with displaced. Unconditional love not only doesn't exist outside of a parent-child relationship, it is foolish to put on a facade that it does especially when it comes to your significant other. If that person is lying to you and mistreating you (on a small scale or large) it's only a matter of time before you reach the end of your rope and react somehow. Whether that's hitting them back, leaving them and initiating a divorce, killing them, killing yourself or whatever..
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Posted 09 July 2011 - 10:57 PM

I think it may be possible for the right individuals to achieve unconditional love if they end up together. Doesn't mean that every marriage should strive for it, but I think some people can achieve it - if they find the right person... ie, if X marries Z, they may be capable of unconditional love for Z, but if X had married Y, that same X may have only been able to have conditional love. I believe it can happen because I've seen some couples who stay together in the worst of conditions. Check out your local ICU... in addition to tremendous pain, I've seen little miracles of love there.

Certainly, I think it's more likely to occur in a parent-child relationship, although I have other relatives who I believe love me unconditionally, alhamdulillah. And I've seen plenty of people who have that kind of parental love for someone other than their own child (parents, siblings, etc).
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Posted 10 July 2011 - 01:16 PM

and then there is love; Mills & Boon style:

http://www.telegraph...-breakdown.html :D

View Postdisplaced, on 09 July 2011 - 07:07 AM, said:

would you love someone who left you for another man?

who constantly put you down?

who hit you?

come on. this is nonsense we're told exists. it doesn't. real love is based on mutual respect, consideration, mercy, and friendship. it isn't unconditional and you can't take it for granted. it takes effort to maintain. what doesn't take effort is that head in the clouds beginning of the relationship feeling. that goes away, there's no maintaining it in real life..and then people split up because they think it should always be like that if it's right.


And yet there are millions of people throughout the world who deal with spouses, children, and parents with mental illnesses...
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Posted 11 February 2012 - 10:29 AM

When someone shares their cookie dough. I ain't doing that.
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Posted 11 February 2012 - 10:36 AM

Zzz, did you see the cookie dough dip recipe that I had posted? I'm not even a fan of cookie dough but the pic still got me drooling. :o
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Posted 11 February 2012 - 12:56 PM

View Postshadha, on 11 February 2012 - 10:36 AM, said:

Zzz, did you see the cookie dough dip recipe that I had posted? I'm not even a fan of cookie dough but the pic still got me drooling. :o


i saw a healthy cookie dough dip recipe that uses chickpeas..
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Posted 12 February 2012 - 08:10 AM

Shadha, displaced: I was thinking Pizza Hut cookie dough :o Recipes, I'm amazing. I will look into them, thank you..
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Posted 04 March 2012 - 02:36 AM

Love from heart is real love.
Try to love Allah and Islam from heart.
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