[ChotooMotoo]

well, it's been ruined now. Nobody can use it now. Kind of like white caped and pointy hooded white caps with eye holes and burning crosses

[BaronChairman]

EirinnMoChroi, on 28 February 2012 - 02:56 PM, said:

Can't people learn to share? It's a fairly basic symbol. I wouldn't be surprised if it's been used by lots of different groups of people.

I guess they can learn to share until one of the people they shared it with killed 6 million other people. Good or not, whatever you see in it, the universality of the swastika almost completely belongs to the Nazis now. It's what people automatically associate with the Nazis, and society has done such a terrific job of programming it into everyone that anyone seen with a swastika might as well have a huge "racist" sign tattooed to their forehead. Yes, many people use it and continue to use it - supposedly it's all over the place in India, where people still wear it as a good luck sign. But in the west, you're screwed for life if you wear one because you WILL be viewed as a Nazi.

Same with the Confederate ensign. It wasn't originally created as a racist sign, but the Klan took it and ran it to the point where it's seen exclusively as one in a lot of the country.

[EirinnMoChroi]

BaronChairman, on 28 February 2012 - 03:49 PM, said:

I guess they can learn to share until one of the people they shared it with killed 6 million other people. Good or not, whatever you see in it, the universality of the swastika almost completely belongs to the Nazis now. It's what people automatically associate with the Nazis, and society has done such a terrific job of programming it into everyone that anyone seen with a swastika might as well have a huge "racist" sign tattooed to their forehead. Yes, many people use it and continue to use it - supposedly it's all over the place in India, where people still wear it as a good luck sign. But in the west, you're screwed for life if you wear one because you WILL be viewed as a Nazi.

Same with the Confederate ensign. It wasn't originally created as a racist sign, but the Klan took it and ran it to the point where it's seen exclusively as one in a lot of the country.

Whoops. I responded and then realized I had nothing to reply back with. You were pretty much right and said it all.

[EirinnMoChroi]

ChotooMotoo, on 28 February 2012 - 03:26 PM, said:

well, it's been ruined now. Nobody can use it now. Kind of like white caped and pointy hooded white caps with eye holes and burning crosses

Poor Spanish priests. Time to find a new costume:



^mad kudos to me braving it in a public library looking through those pictures to post. I just clicked out of this window and there was a gigantic picture of a KKK-looking catholic priest on my screen and I was just praying a black girl wouldn't walk behind me.

[ChotooMotoo]

I think in Mexico they wear red.

[EirinnMoChroi]

ChotooMotoo, on 28 February 2012 - 08:10 PM, said:

I think in Mexico they wear red.

In Ireland, they wear kelly green and the top cone part is a big top hat

[ChotooMotoo]

EirinnMoChroi, on 28 February 2012 - 11:09 PM, said:

In Ireland, they wear kelly green and the top cone part is a big top hat

You mean like leprechauns?

[Skinwalker]

EirinnMoChroi, on 28 February 2012 - 02:56 PM, said:

Can't people learn to share? It's a fairly basic symbol. I wouldn't be surprised if it's been used by lots of different groups of people.

I did mention that it is found around the world and goes back to prehistoric times. Just calling them out on the usual Hindu symbol excuse when sidestepping an issue on why it is really their avatar etc.

[Skinwalker]

EirinnMoChroi, on 28 February 2012 - 04:36 PM, said:

Poor Spanish priests. Time to find a new costume:



^mad kudos to me braving it in a public library looking through those pictures to post. I just clicked out of this window and there was a gigantic picture of a KKK-looking catholic priest on my screen and I was just praying a black girl wouldn't walk behind me.

Waaaaaay too funny.

[EirinnMoChroi]

Skinwalker, on 29 February 2012 - 12:16 AM, said:

I did mention that it is found around the world and goes back to prehistoric times. Just calling them out on the usual Hindu symbol excuse when sidestepping an issue on why it is really their avatar etc.

I see. Fair point

[EirinnMoChroi]

ChotooMotoo, on 28 February 2012 - 11:20 PM, said:

You mean like leprechauns?

Racist. Just cause we wear kelly green and top hats does not make us leprechauns!

[BaronChairman]

EirinnMoChroi, on 29 February 2012 - 07:58 AM, said:

Racist. Just cause we wear kelly green and top hats does not make us leprechauns!

Exactly. Nor does it mean we have big pots of gold at the ends of rainbows. We used up all the gold to buy our passage to the United States, which is why we lived in squalid poverty in this country for so long!

[ChotooMotoo]

EirinnMoChroi, on 29 February 2012 - 07:58 AM, said:

Racist. Just cause we wear kelly green and top hats does not make us leprechauns!

I prefer the term racialist thank tou very much.

[EirinnMoChroi]

BaronChairman, on 29 February 2012 - 10:36 AM, said:

Exactly. Nor does it mean we have big pots of gold at the ends of rainbows. We used up all the gold to buy our passage to the United States, which is why we lived in squalid poverty in this country for so long!

THANKS FOR DEPRESSING ME!

And yeah...pretty much. That's why my grandpa that came over froze to death one Minnesota winter. Not that it was any better back in Londonderry though with all the naughty British protestants running around! Damn British!

By the way, in case anyone is looking for a good Irish recipe for St. Pattys Day, I found a good one:

Irish Potato Famine Soup!

Take a pot of water and set it to boil on the stove. Then eat.

[EirinnMoChroi]

ChotooMotoo, on 29 February 2012 - 03:11 PM, said:

I prefer the term racialist thank tou very much.

If I'm a leprechaun...then you are...



Prison called. They want their clothes back

and uhhh...the smurf whose bladder you stole to wear on your head called and wants it back too.

[ChotooMotoo]

EirinnMoChroi, on 29 February 2012 - 04:51 PM, said:

If I'm a leprechaun...then you are...



Prison called. They want their clothes back

and uhhh...the smurf whose bladder you stole to wear on your head called and wants it back too.

I prefer black turtlenecks

[BaronChairman]

EirinnMoChroi, on 29 February 2012 - 04:49 PM, said:

And yeah...pretty much. That's why my grandpa that came over froze to death one Minnesota winter. Not that it was any better back in Londonderry though with all the naughty British protestants running around! Damn British!

... Your family is from Derry? B.. But.... That's in NORTHERN IRELAND! You Loyalist scum! It's all your fault!

[EirinnMoChroi]

BaronChairman, on 01 March 2012 - 10:54 AM, said:

... Your family is from Derry? B.. But.... That's in NORTHERN IRELAND! You Loyalist scum! It's all your fault!

Uhhhhhh heck no. My family was Catholic. We certainly werent loyalists That's why I called them naughty protestants!!

I negged you just for even suggesting that my fam was loyal to the crown and not to the Irish Republic

[BaronChairman]

EirinnMoChroi, on 01 March 2012 - 02:14 PM, said:

Uhhhhhh heck no. My family was Catholic. We certainly werent loyalists That's why I called them naughty protestants!!

I negged you just for even suggesting that my fam was loyal to the crown and not to the Irish Republic

Whoops... (I would have put that into the extra-small print, but the icons don't seem to be working in my computer.)

If I may seriously ask, when did your family come to America?

[EirinnMoChroi]

BaronChairman, on 01 March 2012 - 05:21 PM, said:

If I may seriously ask, when did your family come to America?

Oh boy....where to start (don't get me talking about my ancestory. I could sit here all day)

Ireland- Co.'s Cork and Dublin and then Co's Armagh and Derry from Northern Ireland
My great-great-great grandfather Henry Kane emigrated from Co. Derry, Nor. Ireland to Canada in 1846 and then went from there to Minnesota. (He married my great-great-great grandmother, Anna Sharpe who was from Co. Dublin)


-Henry Kane (if I had a picture of my father, it would be pretty crazy to see how similar they look)

My grat-great grandfather John Clarkin emigrated from Co. Cork, Ireland in 1885 to Minnesota

Scotland-

My great-great-great grandfather James Walker emigrated from Scotland to Minnesota but we're not sure when. Before 1870 but probably not before 1840.

England-
A branch or two on my mothers side is English. we've been traced back to Catherine Howard and the Duke of Norfolk. They emigrated from England to Virginia aroudn the time of the Revolutionary War. They were my earliest American ancestors.

Germany (Baden-Wurttemburg and Hesse)-

I do not know specific dates on my families emigration from Germany to America off the top of my head (my mom has all the details filed away but I havent looked through them yet), but I do know that it was within the last few generations since my great-grandmother (who is still alive) spoke German with her parents. Coincidently enough, these German ancestors are on my mothers side and were Hessen. Hessens were notorious soldiers-for-hire and were sent over to Co. Cork to bully the Irish around...My fathers side is partly from Co. Cork

If you're curious abotu people's geneologies, I did write a blog entry about Henry Kane and his father Daniel and my Northern Irish roots and how that is related to my experience as a Muslim. I also touch a lot on Irish history in it. Here it is: http://muslimahsoapb...can-muslim.html