[rawrr]

Timbit said:

i wonder how my parents would react if i died and wanted my organs donated. hmmm.

Organ donation is allowed?

[Timbit]

rawrr said:

Organ donation is allowed?

as far as i know: no.
but... that can't be right. i'm sure there are qualifications to that.

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[rawrr]

Direct link if anyone else is interested:

Is organ donation permissible?

[Timbit]

but... organ donation is always about saving somebody's life.

[hijabihoodlum]

Timbit said:

i wonder how my parents would react if i died and wanted my organs donated. hmmm.

well, usually in that case, even if you designate yourself as an organ donor, your immediate family's decision trumps yours. unless it's like, in your will. i think.

[Timbit]

hijabihoodlum said:

well, usually in that case, even if you designate yourself as an organ donor, your immediate family's decision trumps yours. unless it's like, in your will. i think.

really?

that makes sense, i think... it's feasible that you check off the yes box and agree to organ donation, but change your mind sometime after and just forget/don't realize that you'd checked yes.

happened to me.
first time i got a license, i said "yeah, i'd like to donate organs."

then i thought my parents wouldn't like it, but didn't do anything about it till i had to get the license renewed. 5 years later.

[marjanih]

Hmmmm I thought there was donor designation, which requires the donors wishes to be met regardless of any family conflict. I think it would be a shame to live your life thinking you're going to be an organ donator, to only died and have that overruled. Shame and disrespectful.

I am one, even though my mom and I fought over it. The way I see it, if I needed the organ, they would pray for a donor for me...so why can't I possibly help fulfill that prayer for another?


shadha-

[nunyobeezwax]

shadha you make a great point!

i just thought about my own possible organ donation for the first time. the whole concept is kind of....freaky

[Timbit]

shadha said:

The way I see it, if I needed the organ, they would pray for a donor for me...so why can't I possibly help fulfill that prayer for another?

yeah. exactly.
you help save somebody's life... with your demise.

it's the circle of life.

[hijabihoodlum]

Timbit said:

yeah. exactly.
you help save somebody's life... with your demise.

it's the circle of life.

well, yes, ideally that's what it's like. but the process of organ harvesting is pretty gruesome. they essentially have to keep you physically alive (though no brain function) - heart pumping, etc. for enough time to be able to extract each organ they can. and it does a lot of physical damage...obviously. lots of scholars are wary of this, and i think rightfully so, because we are supposed to take care of our bodies and not damage them unnecessarily. and then some people use the argument that your organs could go to really bad people, etc.

i mean, i'm an organ donor, but i understand that it's a very contested issue.

[nunyobeezwax]

the part about mutilating the body to extract the organs is what bothers me. and the thought that the heart, kidneys or lungs that are inside me right now could be inside somebody else in the future. it's a weird, weird thought

the part about 'possibly going to bad people' is silly. you wouldn't refuse a person medical treatment just because they "might" commit a crime in the future, or have committed a crime in the past? (rapists, murderers, child molesters might be a different story but we won't go there). a life is a life is a life, there's no way around that. saving a life is a huge deal.

[Timbit]

i wouldn't have thought much of it, but one of my friends became sick recently and came close to needing a transplant. still might.

which makes me think... if i could spare an organ or two, i would.

[MrZ]

hijabihoodlum said:

well, usually in that case, even if you designate yourself as an organ donor, your immediate family's decision trumps yours. unless it's like, in your will. i think.

This doesn't make any sense. The agreement to be an organ donor is binding and is your decision (provided that you are not a minor), and cannot be trumped by anything or anyone.

I have a good friend who works in Cairo for an anti-organ trafficking NGO. Because organ-donating is currently prohibited in Egypt (though there is a high chance it will be overturned in the near future), organ-trafficking thrives. Essentially the filthy rich take horrible advantage of the dirt poor by exploiting them and sometimes forcefully taking their organs. It's unhygenic, terribly destructive, and affects so many, many people... and the entire disgusting underworld would be completely eradicated if organ-donation became legal.

[sally]

Timbit said:

and yeah, one time, a nurse stabbed both my arms 4 times till she found the vein. she said she's been on leave for a year and i was her first blood draw coming back.

HAHAAHAHAAH That's awesome

[hijabihoodlum]

MuslimZ said:

This doesn't make any sense. The agreement to be an organ donor is binding and is your decision (provided that you are not a minor), and cannot be trumped by anything or anyone.

"Contrary to popular belief, signing a donor card or your driver's license does not guarantee that your organs will be donated. The best way to ensure that your wishes are carried out is to inform your family of your desire to donate. Doing this in writing ensures that your wishes will be considered. Hospitals seek consent of the next of kin before removing organs. If your family members know you wanted to be a donor, it makes it easier for them to give their consent.

If you have no next of kin or you doubt your family will agree to donate your organs, you can assign durable power of attorney to someone who you know will abide by your wishes. A lawyer can help you prepare this document. "
Organ donation: Don't let these 10 myths confuse you - MayoClinic.com


take that, punk.

[MrZ]

hijabihoodlum said:

"Contrary to popular belief, signing a donor card or your driver's license does not guarantee that your organs will be donated. The best way to ensure that your wishes are carried out is to inform your family of your desire to donate. Doing this in writing ensures that your wishes will be considered. Hospitals seek consent of the next of kin before removing organs. If your family members know you wanted to be a donor, it makes it easier for them to give their consent.

If you have no next of kin or you doubt your family will agree to donate your organs, you can assign durable power of attorney to someone who you know will abide by your wishes. A lawyer can help you prepare this document. "
Organ donation: Don't let these 10 myths confuse you - MayoClinic.com


take that, punk.

I just wanted to give you a freebie for old times sake homes.