[kababqueen]

Last October, our public transit authority came up with a few new rules. One of these was that if you put your feet up on the seat on trains in NYC, you could be fined up to $100. They also made drinking coffee and other beverages on the train forbidden. I for one love the new rules

[heba]

only on islamica would the past 6 pages of a thread be about milk and cushions.... LOL

thanks for the entertainment ladies

[Aida]

A vegan PETA activist said the same thing that sally mentioned about milk not being made for human consumption. He also said honey is bee barf and compared chicken eggs to menses. It was funny in a disturbing sort of way. My conclusion, if Allah made these things halal for me then I'm not going to make it haram for me.

[sumi]

werent PETA the ones who said ben n jerry should make ice cream out of breast milk?

[zzze]

ew!

A vegan once told me milk was mostly pus. It put me off for about a month.

[kababqueen]

PETA is certifiably insane. They equate eating a chicken sandwich with hunting a baby seal for sport or making a python handbag.

That being said, limiting the consumption of animal byproducts does have environmental and health benefits.

[Anderson]

lol at how vindictive the last few pages have been...

[sumi]

zzze said:

ew!

A vegan once told me milk was mostly pus. It put me off for about a month.

a vegan told me that regular milk has a lot of blood in it, so they bleach it to look "normal." took me a few months to get over that one...

[sally]

LOLLL I posted PETA ideology hahaahahah :embarrassed:

[Anderson]

Lolllll!

[ChotooMotoo]

sally said:

I think Chotoo is more referring to the debate I was talking about which argues you shouldn't drink it, not us

Yes, I was talking about the anti-milk ideology. I think it's dumb. We aren't baby rice, but we eat rice, we aren't baby trees, but we eat maple syrup. As for the lactose intolerance... yes all adults TO SOME EXTENT, but that extent varies from group to group. Using some peoples lactose intolerance as an excuse to forbid me from dairy is straight up dumb. My genes are clearly okay with me drinking milk, so why shouldn't I? I'm allergic to shellfish, but I don't make the argument that Shellfish clearly isn't meant for human consumption therefore all Japanese people should keep it out of their diet, or peanuts, or any other food that some (but not all) people have allergies. I was reading the other day that Japanese people have a different gene that allows them to eat certain seafood and things like seaweed and kelp that other groups cannot digest. Since they needed a gene modification that food is clearly not meant for human consumption and even though they CAN eat it now, they shouldn't for ideological reasons.

If the PETA people really thought all of their arguments through to their logical conclusions human's wouldn't eat anything at all and we would cease to exist through mass starvation. Does anyone ask the tomato plant how it feels about being eaten? How about legumes? Did you get permission from the soil to plant that walnut tree?

We are humans, and we eat food. You don't evolve to become the dominant group on the planet able to make bolywood movies and korean drama's if you take perfectly good, nutritious consumable food from your diet for ideological reasons.

Where would all those cows be anyway if human's didn't take care of them?

[nooni]

xoxo said:

We only have 1 bedroom and it doesn't lock from the outside unfortunately.
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in that case (about the prying and snooping) i wouldnt think it wrong to just boldly, but respectfully, tell them not to do that.

xoxo said:

Last October, our public transit authority came up with a few new rules. One of these was that if you put your feet up on the seat on trains in NYC, you could be fined up to $100. They also made drinking coffee and other beverages on the train forbidden. I for one love the new rules

lol i still see ppl putting their feet up and drinking beverages (*me*) in the city all the time

[kababqueen]

nooni said:

lol i still see ppl putting their feet up and drinking beverages (*me*) in the city all the time

yeah, seriously. and they also said that you can't travel b/w train cars or wear roller blades...but i don't think that anyone really cares. i have yet to see anyone get fined.

have you ever had your bag searched by the NYPD at those little tables they set up? every hijabi i've spoken to says that they've never been the subject of a search, and neither have i...i guess they don't want to engage in blatant racial profiling, cuz i only see non brown/non muslim-looking people getting searched

[sumi]

ok so... i can't believe i'm actually at this point in my life now, but... what do pre-teens/early teens think is cool nowadays?

specifically the 12-13 female market?

is something like this cool?




do they even use "cool" anymore?

[kababqueen]

ChotooMotoo said:

As for the lactose intolerance... yes all adults TO SOME EXTENT, but that extent varies from group to group. Using some peoples lactose intolerance as an excuse to forbid me from dairy is straight up dumb. My genes are clearly okay with me drinking milk, so why shouldn't I? I'm allergic to shellfish, but I don't make the argument that Shellfish clearly isn't meant for human consumption therefore all Japanese people should keep it out of their diet, or peanuts, or any other food that some (but not all) people have allergies.

Lactose intolerance is different from a true food allergy

Some folks (not PETA ppl, just your garden-variety vegans and health nuts) point to the fact that so many people (incl. young children) have food allergies/sensitivities these days (more than ever before) and say that we should avoid the consumption of dairy, soy, and corn products because of that reason (i.e. something in these substances is incompatible with some ppl's digestive and immune systems). Also, they believe that because we consume too much of these food substances, people's bodies become unable to handle them after a while. It does make some sense to me but I don't know if I buy it entirely. What I do know is that when I cut gluten and dairy out of my diet, I'm a much happier camper than if I eat them.

Nobody's forbidding anyone from dairy here, I was just explaining what I've heard from anti-milk folks on the issue. If you can drink milk, then by all means, knock yourself out.

This post has been edited by xoxo: 09 July 2010 - 09:03 PM

[Timbit]

xoxo said:

Last October, our public transit authority came up with a few new rules. One of these was that if you put your feet up on the seat on trains in NYC, you could be fined up to $100. They also made drinking coffee and other beverages on the train forbidden. I for one love the new rules

well, it seems they don't check or fine that often.

i'd be okay with the not putting my feet up (i don't do it on local buses or the subway, but actual trains or buses for longer distances... like between cities... when they're not crowded),
but the not drinking anything on the subway is kind of ridiculous.

[nooni]

xoxo said:

have you ever had your bag searched by the NYPD at those little tables they set up? every hijabi i've spoken to says that they've never been the subject of a search, and neither have i...i guess they don't want to engage in blatant racial profiling, cuz i only see non brown/non muslim-looking people getting searched

nope, hasnt happened to me alhumdulilah. its pretty ridiculous though considering that thousands and thousands of ppl commute the trains everyday.

sumi said:

ok so... i can't believe i'm actually at this point in my life now, but... what do pre-teens/early teens think is cool nowadays?

specifically the 12-13 female market?

lol seriously, i have no idea whats in anymore either. its a cute bracelet though. if its a graduation gift (from middle school?), a nice grad photo frame would be nice for her to use even at that age to put in of her and her friends/family

if shes into art, maybe center it around that? nice paint sets and brushes? i remember at that age, i loved art and loved getting art sets of markers/crayons, etc. or maybe even a nice stationary set, although ppl at that age and younger just use the internet. scrapbook and its materials? i loved it then and still do now (HH, im still going to use that stick from the lounge )

[kababqueen]

Timbit said:

i'd be okay with the not putting my feet up (i don't do it on local buses or the subway, but actual trains or buses for longer distances... like between cities... when they're not crowded),
but the not drinking anything on the subway is kind of ridiculous.

Actually I think that it makes a lot of sense. You have millions of people using these trains every single day, and drinks are bound to spill sometimes. When that happens, it either makes a sticky mess that nobody cleans up and people can slip on, or in the case of hot beverages, people can get burned if something like tea or coffee spills on them.

[ChotooMotoo]

xoxo said:

Actually I think that it makes a lot of sense. You have millions of people using these trains every single day, and drinks are bound to spill sometimes. When that happens, it either makes a sticky mess that nobody cleans up and people can slip on, or in the case of hot beverages, people can get burned if something like tea or coffee spills on them.

yeah... but if you have a long trip like a lot of people have, telling people not to eat or drink on their hour + commute is pretty rediculous

[hijabihoodlum]

ChotooMotoo said:

yeah... but if you have a long trip like a lot of people have, telling people not to eat or drink on their hour + commute is pretty rediculous

no food or drink allowed on the DC/DC area metro. a lot of the cars are carpeted. they've got signs like crazy saying as much, they say it over the PA periodically, and you definitely don't see people carrying drinks regularly. sometimes, but not regularly. whenever i've done it i've felt the need to be sneaky about it. one time, i had a frilly cappuccino drink in my hand from union station, it was the first time i'd taken a drink on the metro, and right before i got on the car during a non-busy time, i spilled the whole danged thing, plop on the floor. and then my car came and i couldn't do anything to fix it. and i felt stupid and evil. i'm still sad about it.