On Taqlid

[Chisti]

What exactly is the salafi stance on taqlid? I know that they are not for it, but what exactly is their stance. How does it apply to the general public who are not scholars?

Thank you

[jinnzaman]

Originally Posted by Chisti

What exactly is the salafi stance on taqlid? I know that they are not for it, but what exactly is their stance. How does it apply to the general public who are not scholars?

Thank you

The Salafi stance on taqlid is really the same stance that non-Salafi 'Ulema have, if you look past the semantics.

Salafis say that the general masses should follow their local Imam.

[Chisti]

Originally Posted by jinnzaman

The Salafi stance on taqlid is really the same stance that non-Salafi 'Ulema have, if you look past the semantics.

Salafis say that the general masses should follow their local Imam.

Interesting ... then what's all the fuss about?

[jinnzaman]

Originally Posted by Chisti

Interesting ... then what's all the fuss about?

Overzealousness. Its not limited to Salafis. You'll find it among everyone. Imam Juwayni, the teacher of Imam Ghazzali, used to bash Imam Abu Hanifa. Hanafis in India don't recognize Hanbali fatawa on certain issues (such as making masah over the socks).

The issue is how to deal with ikhtilaaf.

[SyedShoaib786]

Originally Posted by jinnzaman

Overzealousness. Its not limited to Salafis. You'll find it among everyone. Imam Juwayni, the teacher of Imam Ghazzali, used to bash Imam Abu Hanifa. Hanafis in India don't recognize Hanbali fatawa on certain issues (such as making masah over the socks).

The issue is how to deal with ikhtilaaf.

yes this nullifies wudu...some say with thick cotton socks its ok and others say to be safe and just dont do it over cotton at all.

Its not that the hambali madhab isn't recognized, it is recognized, it is just recognized as being wrong in some instances...much like they find us to be wrong in some instances, but its an issue of methodology which legitimizes the claims.

The problem (imho) today isn't how to deal with ikhtilaaf, but how we get to the point of ikhtilaaf...such as instead of following proper methodology to come to a conclusion, we follow our desires in our rulings, which defeats the whole basis of our deen...no?

[jinnzaman]

Originally Posted by SyedShoaib786

yes this nullifies wudu...some say with thick cotton socks its ok and others say to be safe and just dont do it over cotton at all.

Its not that the hambali madhab isn't recognized, it is recognized, it is just recognized as being wrong in some instances...much like they find us to be wrong in some instances, but its an issue of methodology which legitimizes the claims.

The problem (imho) today isn't how to deal with ikhtilaaf, but how we get to the point of ikhtilaaf...such as instead of following proper methodology to come to a conclusion, we follow our desires in our rulings, which defeats the whole basis of our deen...no?

This is a perfect example of what I'm talking about. Overzealousness and lack of recognition for ikhtilaaf.

Anyhow, are you a mujtahid? No. Then on what authority are you allowed to bash the Hanbali madhab?

[SyedShoaib786]

Originally Posted by jinnzaman

This is a perfect example of what I'm talking about. Overzealousness and lack of recognition for ikhtilaaf.

Anyhow, are you a mujtahid? No. Then on what authority are you allowed to bash the Hanbali madhab?

lol theres so many things wrong in that statement...i never bashed anything, nor was i overzealous. if thats what u got out of my statement then u totally misread it....like 100% misread it....wow....