[navid]

AFP: Inflential Sunni cleric speaks of Shiite 'invasion'

DOHA (AFP) — Prominent Sunni Muslim religious commentator Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi charged on Thursday that Shiite Muslims are "invading" Sunni societies.

"I stick to what I have said about an attempted Shiite invasion of Sunni societies," the Egyptian-born cleric, who is based in Qatar, said in a statement.

"We must face up to it otherwise we will have betrayed our mission," Qaradawi added.

He also described Shiites as "heretics"

Qaradawi said he was responding to recent criticism by two prominent Shiite clerics, Lebanon's Mohammed Hussein Fadlallah and Iran's Ayatollah Mohamad Ali Tashkiri, of earlier remarks he had made about a Shiite "invasion."

Sunnis represent the majority of Muslims in the Middle East, but Shiites form the majority in Iran and Iraq and have a substantial presence in Lebanon.

Sunni leaders in the region have voiced concern about a Shiite resurgence following sectarian strife between the two communities in Iraq after the overthrow of Saddam Hussein's Sunni-dominated regime in the US-led invasion of 2003 and its replacement by a Shiite-led government.

Qaradawi is a regular guest on a widely watched religious affairs programme on the Qatar-based satellite channel Al-Jazeera.

Screw him and anyone who thinks like him. He must be cowering in fear to see people utilizing free will.

How is it acceptable to go around preaching Sunni-Shi'ah unity yet turn around and call us "heretics"?

[Rambo]

he is right though, look whats happening in Iraq. Sunnis have become the bottam of society there.

[navid]

Originally Posted by Rambo

he is right though, look whats happening in Iraq. Sunnis have become the bottam of society there.

Go to Kurdistan if you think that.

[Macaca]

He's right though and he's not been two-faced.
I can have a shia neighbor, a shia co-worker,etc and I can get along fine with them nor should I be rude towards them,etc, but shia should be executed if they are found to be trying to convert people in Muslim countries just like Christians who do it. Shia are trying to convert people, I've read of them trying to set up dawa efforts as far as in Bosnia!
So he is right and he said shia are still muslim (which I disagree with), so I don't think that's being two-faced. He didn't say go kill all shia.

[Rambo]

^ kurdistan is almost like a seperate state, there are no shias there just sunnis.

[navid]

Originally Posted by Macaca

He's right though and he's not been two-faced.

No, he's wrong, and he IS being two-faced if he continues to propagate Sunni-Shi'a unity while saying crap like this.

I can have a shia neighbor, a shia co-worker,etc and I can get along fine with them nor should I be rude towards them,etc, but shia should be executed if they are found to be trying to convert people in Muslim countries just like Christians who do it.

What the Hell is wrong with you? You are a bloody fanatic, plain and simple. If a Shi'a wanted to convert, I wouldn't be hostile like you are.

Shia are trying to convert people, I've read of them trying to set up dawa efforts as far as in Bosnia!

Iran also set up Shi'a dawa efforts in Dagestan and Chechnya, and there's nothing wrong with that.

And for Bosnia, so what? If they want to be Shi'a, let them. I'd rather have Bosnians be Shi'a than to be raging Wahabified fanatics.

So he is right and he said shia are still muslim (which I disagree with), so I don't think that's being two-faced. He didn't say go kill all shia.

No, but his demonization of Shi'as will spur hostility and even attacks against us. You don't need to say it bluntly to inflict harm.

[the_wrong_guy]

Um, I am completely unaware of the context of this 'debate' between Qaradawi and Ayatollah Tashkiri, but something about these comments seems very un-Qaradawi-like.

And if by heretic we mean Mubtadi'(innovator), then that's what Sunnis think of Shias and vice versa. What the Amman Message denounces is allegations of Kufr.

[Jaysh]

May Allah [swt] preserve the noble shaykh.

[ShahRukh]

Originally Posted by Jaysh

May Allah [swt] preserve the noble shaykh.

And may Allah guide those who create doubts in people's hearts.


Ameen X 2.

[Rida]

Originally Posted by Jaysh

May Allah [swt] preserve the noble shaykh.

Ameen

was-Salaam

[Jaysh]

Originally Posted by navid

How is it acceptable to go around preaching Sunni-Shi'ah unity yet turn around and call us "heretics"?

Bismillah.

I have listened to Shaykh Yusuf al-Qaradawi's speeches on Sunni-Shia unity. The noble Shaykh does not believe in unconditional unity with the Shias. Rather, he believes in functional unity with the Shias if they agree to certain conditions. Two of the conditions that Shaykh Yusuf Qaradawi placed on them--if they wish to unify with us--is that they cease and desist from (1) cursing the Sahabah and the Mothers of the Believers, and (2) they stop trying to convert Sunnis to Shi'ism.

Therefore, Shaykh Yusuf is not being hypocritical. Rather, it is his belief that these two conditions are not being met, and therefore unity is not possible at this current time, until they rectify that. He is here talking about the second condition, which is the revolutionary Shia spirit, whereby they wish to export Shi'ism abroad into Sunni lands and thereby expand their power base. The Shaykh wishes that Shias focus on converting Non-Muslims to Islam instead of worrying about converting Sunnis to Shi'ism.

Fi Aman Allah.

[MossadConspiracy]

he's being hypocritical if he doesnt find Sunni dawa to Shias to be incompatible with 'unity' as well

[wheelworks]

[Jaysh]

Originally Posted by MossadConspiracy

he's being hypocritical if he doesnt find Sunni dawa to Shias to be incompatible with 'unity' as well

As-Salam Alaykum.

Bismillah.

Bro, we shouldn't speak about scholars in this way.

And there is no Sunni dawah in Shia countries, such as Iran. That is what the Shaykh is talking about.

Anyways, I don't want to be dragged down in a sectarian debate, since that is my undoing. I do agree that there are many things that Sunnis do which are oppressive towards Shias (and vice/versa). But I just wanted to defend the noble Shaykh.

Fi Aman Allah.

[MossadConspiracy]

its inconsistent not hypocritical.

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