Is This Hadith Anti-Semetic?

[Kona_Silat]

A hadith narrated by Abu Hurayrah in which Prophet Mohammad (saw) said, “The Hour [the Day of Judgement] will not begin until the Muslims fight the Jews and kill them. A Jew will hide behind a rock or a tree, and the rock or tree will say, ‘O Muslim, O slave of Allaah! There is a Jew behind me, come and kill him!’ for it is one of the trees of the Jews.” (Reported by Muslim, 2922).

[ameen]

salam,

Don't bother stressing over that hadith; just follow the Qur'an.

[Musashi]

Asallamu 'alaikum wa rahmatulLahi wa barakatuh

I think it's only talking about the Jews left at that time.

[Arabatman]

Asalaamualaikum,

Originally Posted by Kona_Silat

A hadith narrated by Abu Hurayrah in which Prophet Mohammad (saw)said, “The Hour [the Day of Judgement] will not begin until the Muslims fight the Jews and kill them. A Jew will hide behind a rock or a tree, and the rock or tree will say, ‘O Muslim, O slave of Allaah! There is a Jew behind me, come and kill him!’ for it is one of the trees of the Jews.” (Reported by Muslim, 2922).

This hadith is inaccurate. Where did you get this? Pretty lousy citation. I advise you to check where you get your hadith from, because this hadith is clearly inaccurate. It is missing a section in the end, and by quoting this hadith to others you are, by quotation, lying against the Messenger of Allah(SWT). Not only that but the Hadith number is also wrong.

Here is the proper Hadith.

Sahih Muslim, Book: 041 Turmoil and Portents of the Last Hour, Hadith Number 6985.
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Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.

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At least get the proper Hadith, before you start trolling.

Asalaamualaikum,

-Zahid

[Musashi]

Asallamu 'alaikum wa rahmatulLahi wa barakatuh

I thought it was incomplete. I remember the version I was taught in school mentioned the tree by name, but I wasn't too sure. ^^;

[Variable]

Originally Posted by Arabatman

Asalaamualaikum,



This hadith is inaccurate. Where did you get this? Pretty lousy citation. I advise you to check where you get your hadith from, because this hadith is clearly inaccurate. It is missing a section in the end, and by quoting this hadith to others you are, by quotation, lying against the Messenger of Allah(SWT). Not only that but the Hadith number is also wrong.

Here is the proper Hadith.

Sahih Muslim, Book: 041 Turmoil and Portents of the Last Hour, Hadith Number 6985.
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Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.

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At least get the proper Hadith, before you start trolling.

Asalaamualaikum,

-Zahid

What's the tree Gharqad? It still sounds fairly anti-Jewish to me in spite of the qualification at the end. It sounds like it's saying that if they hide behind that tree - which is their tree - then it wouldn't betray their location, other trees however would.

So what does it really mean?

[Anderson]

Originally Posted by Variable

What's the tree Gharqad? It still sounds fairly anti-Jewish to me in spite of the qualification at the end. It sounds like it's saying that if they hide behind that tree - which is their tree - then it wouldn't betray their location, other trees however would.

So what does it really mean?

Have you seen the Lord of the Rings, those trees that talk? It's like that except one tree will protect the jews.

[ChotooMotoo]

How is it anti-Jewish? It's not telling Muslims to kill Jews or saying that killing Jews is particularly praiseworthy, it's rather a prediction of things to come. Jews are given as the example, but a more esoteric explanation could be that Muslims will genrerally be at war at the end of time.

[Jamroll]

Someone should make a website like these fatwa websites, called "What does this Hadith mean?" where people can go to get answers on hadith they find troubling or confusing.

[Arabesque]

There's nothing troubling about this hadith. It just predicted what's happening today. And the "tree" experience could be interpreted differently to mean that nature will cooperate with the locals, who know their land inside-out, while the new immigrants are obviously clueless. The Jewish tree could mean the Jewish underground shelters or all these weird shelters they build to hide from Qassam and Hizbullah rockets.

It's not calling for the killing of Jews. It's predicting a war that's already there.

[Nawawi619]

Originally Posted by ameen

salam,

Don't bother stressing over that hadith; just follow the Qur'an.

For the Ahl Sunnah wa'l jamaah. We have four main sources we follow: Quran, Sunnah (ie Hadith), Ijma (Scholarly Consensus), and Qiyas (Juridical analogy). We do not follow the quran alone.

[ameen]

Originally Posted by Nawawi619

For the Ahl Sunnah wa'l jamaah. We have four main sources we follow: Quran, Sunnah (ie Hadith), Ijma (Scholarly Consensus), and Qiyas (Juridical analogy). We do not follow the quran alone.

salam,

And who told you to follow FOUR sources instead of the one source (the Qur'an) ?

[Kona_Silat]

Originally Posted by ameen

salam,

Don't bother stressing over that hadith; just follow the Qur'an.

Originally Posted by Arabatman

Asalaamualaikum,



This hadith is inaccurate. Where did you get this? Pretty lousy citation. I advise you to check where you get your hadith from, because this hadith is clearly inaccurate. It is missing a section in the end, and by quoting this hadith to others you are, by quotation, lying against the Messenger of Allah(SWT). Not only that but the Hadith number is also wrong.

Here is the proper Hadith.

Sahih Muslim, Book: 041 Turmoil and Portents of the Last Hour, Hadith Number 6985.
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Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.

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At least get the proper Hadith, before you start trolling.

Asalaamualaikum,

-Zahid

http://www.islamicaweb.com/forums/11291-post32.html by A_Mumainah (sp)

[Aryan_]

So why does islam bother offering protection to Jews when Allah is going to kill them all off anyway?

[LEGALEAGLE]

The hadith isn't anti-semen it's pro-family...