[rahat]

I wanted to get your takes on this situation: Very Frightening Situatation In My Community - ShiaChat.com

I'm pals with mansab, and to be honest I think the people there are being really ridiculous to him.

What do you think?

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rahat

[Arabesque]

I think it's a nice article, and I don't see anything wrong with it. The only thing I could think of as to why it might have been rejected is because:

1. The repetitive use of "Imam" as title.

2. The concept of Ahl al-Bayt is said to include more than the ones mentioned in the article, such as the wives of the Prophet (sAaw).

I may be wrong, Allahu a3lam. I'm just thinking out loud.

[kamuzrana]

The fact that he doesn't outright mention any "shia stuff" would probably make most non-shias suspect in a "what's he trying to pull" sort of way.

besides the language, which is indicative of a shia viewpoint (not that it necessary clashes with sunni beliefs but it is culturally shia) the use of the word imam etc, his mentioning hadith al-thaqalayn is a big indicator. and it's a bit controversial.

Hadith of the two weighty things - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

but i'm impressed that they asked to collabrate. that shows progress inshallah.

[LEGALEAGLE]

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led by imam mahdi...

here you go...

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[MossadConspiracy]

MY MAHDI CAN BEAT UP YOUR MAHDI!

JUST YOU WAIT

about the article, whoever posted it is being a bit dramatic. Shias who are active about their faith really need to stop with all the drama and victim stuff. We all know that the article was written and submitted to bait this exact response out of the small minded people who run that newsletter. I'm sure there are shia newsletters they couldve submitted it to, or a billion other topics they could have written about which would not have aroused any controversy, if that had been their intention. Lets not be drama queens.

ws

[rahat]

Its not 'victim' crap if it these people are more likely to deny what they admit to be core Sunni beliefs rather than allow a Shia to write an article.

I mean remember what the guy said:

"A Shia brother and I volunteered to edit a newsletter that comes out every month for our Sunni community. I wrote an article for the front page regarding the importance of the Ahlul'bayt, and I spoke about their virtues and high rank through the Qur'an. I never said the word Shia in it, nor did I use Shia sources, nor did I say anything bad about Sunni Islam. It was just an article saying to remember the Ahlul'bayt in your prayers, pretty much."

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rahat

[Jamroll]

Salam,

There's nothing particularly bad about the article. It's written from a Shia slant (even though it uses Sunni hadiths to make its points) which is not inherently wrong, but I think it was bad judgement to pick a topic on which there are disagreements.

If it's being written for a mixed Sunni-Shia audience I think it would have been better to choose a topic that brings everyone together.

[MossadConspiracy]

lets not get off on a drama queen rant

like I said, they deliberately picked a topic and deliberately wrote an article. They got the response they expected and wanted.

If they had written about fasting or prayer or palestine or any of a thousand different topics, nobody would have even known they were shias.

The fact that they went and whined about it on some shia message board makes it even more clear that they were out to get this kind of response (to give them something to whine about)

If the goal was to write an article in a sunni newsletter, there are literally billions of articles they could have written and submitted with no problems at all.

I'm not belittling or singling out shias, I'm sure some sunnis would do the same thing (and the ones who refused to publish their article seem like idiots). Actually i think there's probably more hatred and definitely more violence on the sunni side than the shia side.

ws

[rahat]

thats the problem with you people, you hide behind "well you had it coming" when people behave in a distinctly anti-islamic fashion.

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rahat

[Arabesque]

From what I understand, the newsletter did not specify the article topic. So if they didn't want to publish anything that has a Shia flavour, shouldn't they have specified that from the beginning?

And then you also cannot have a "collaborative" work when you plan to censor the other. The whole point of collaborating on a project is to allow each side to add their "distinctive" input.

[rahat]

I think the problem is that Shias think that the Ahlul Bayt are not a "Shia" topic, but one core to every sect of Islam (except Wahabism).

Anyways, since you guys dont seem to think this behavior is problematic or unique, then I guess I have my answer.

Thanks for the replies.

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rahat

[Jamroll]

Originally Posted by rahat

I think the problem is that Shias think that the Ahlul Bayt are not a "Shia" topic, but one core to every sect of Islam (except Wahabism).

Everyone loves the Ahl ul-Bayt (ra). And we all pray for them, inshallah. But we also know that who is included and who is excluded in this is a source of disagreement between Sunni and Shia. A disagreement which if pressed further, ends up leading to huge hostilities between the two groups.

It's not that an article talking about doing du'a for Ahl ul-Bayt is bad, far from it. I just think if the goal was to write a piece to encourage community cohesion, a topic that there is no disagreement on would have been better.

[Shahnawaz]

Lets not forget that the Rawafidh discount the wives of the Prophet (s) from Ahlul Bait, which was clearly demonstarted in the article.

[MossadConspiracy]

Originally Posted by rahat

I think the problem is that Shias think that the Ahlul Bayt are not a "Shia" topic, but one core to every sect of Islam (except Wahabism).

Anyways, since you guys dont seem to think this behavior is problematic or unique, then I guess I have my answer.

Thanks for the replies.

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rahat

I didnt say that the behavior wasnt problematic, I said that the ones who wrote the article and the ones who are publicizing the whole matter are being drama queens, theres a difference

ws