[sumiyia]

i initiate salaams and respond to salaams to both genders. i feel that its rude not to. is temptation really all people think about? like people really can't put their hormones in check for two seconds just for a simple "peace be upon you" ?

what's even worse is when i'm standing with my husband and some guy will come up, salaam him only, and talk to him only, and just completely ignore me for the entire 15 minutes he's talking to him when i'm standing RIGHT THERE. seriously??

[comportment]

Salami Salam

^this thread reminded me of that maniac article

[sixpakistan]

Originally Posted by sumiyia

i initiate salaams and respond to salaams to both genders. i feel that its rude not to. is temptation really all people think about? like people really can't put their hormones in check for two seconds just for a simple "peace be upon you" ?

what's even worse is when i'm standing with my husband and some guy will come up, salaam him only, and talk to him only, and just completely ignore me for the entire 15 minutes he's talking to him when i'm standing RIGHT THERE. seriously??

I'd assume they have the best of intentions and are considered about their own haya, disrespecting you, disrespecting your husband, etc.

[sumiyia]

Originally Posted by sixpakistan

I'd assume they have the best of intentions and are considered about their own haya, disrespecting you, disrespecting your husband, etc.

... but they have no problems hamming it up with a non-muslim woman 20 seconds later?

[dreamdeferred]

Originally Posted by comportment

Salami Salam

^this thread reminded me of that maniac article

I'm dyin' over here.


And I agree with sumiya........salaams shouldn't be so complicated....just keep it halal and keep it moving.

[sixpakistan]

Originally Posted by sumiyia

... but they have no problems hamming it up with a non-muslim woman 20 seconds later?

Maybe it's coz you're a married muslim woman.. a lot of guys who talk to girls normally are much more careful with married muslim women, especially if they're single themselves.

I personally would say salaams.. I'm just saying, you should assume the best of intentions on their part.

[infamousbrown]

I make a point of saying salam as lasciviously as possible. Le rawr.

[Spice]

Whats the point if you dont need to speak to them? a simple nod is generally good enough, especially if theyre near your own age. And I think it could be kind of suggestive of an invitation for further talk- though I guess that depends on other factors as well, ie body lang. meh.

However, I think it would be wise (to some extent, anyway) for a brother to make his presence known to a muslim woman in public places where there arent many other muslims around. Not sure if anyone here will understand the logic behind that, and Im not sure I want to take the time to explain
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All in all, most muslim women would be much more comfortable approaching a muslim man before a kaffir in case anything.
Its kind of sad that most Muslim men dont feel that kind of ghairat for their women anymore.

The end, bye now

[Revert]

Originally Posted by Spice

Whats the point if you dont need to speak to them? a simple nod is generally good enough, especially if theyre near your own age. And I think it could be kind of suggestive of an invitation for further talk- though I guess that depends on other factors as well, ie body lang. meh.

However, I think it would be wise (to some extent, anyway) for a brother to make his presence known to a muslim woman in public places where there arent many other muslims around. Not sure if anyone here will understand the logic behind that, and Im not sure I want to take the time to explain
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All in all, most muslim women would be much more comfortable approaching a muslim man before a kaffir in case anything.
Its kind of sad that most Muslim men dont feel that kind of ghairat for their women anymore.

The end, bye now

I think i understand..i just feel weird saying hi to people i don't know..

[Salika]

I say salams to boys, I don't see the big deal. Some guys I don't know if thye're the kind that would feel awkward but if I know someone and have worked with them in say, an organization. I would even go out of my way to say hi to them. We're minorities here and I think that's important.

Sometiems I say salams to girls too

jk I say salams to everyone, even Muslim female strangers.

[PhDGirl]

I am an equal opportunity salaam-er

[Jaysh]

I only say salams to chicks, hot chicks.

[Tairra]

Originally Posted by Jaysh

I only say salams to chicks, hot chicks.

I heard that, lol jking.

[Jaysh]

Originally Posted by sixpakistan

Maybe it's coz you're a married muslim woman.. a lot of guys who talk to girls normally are much more careful with married muslim women, especially if they're single themselves.

I personally would say salaams.. I'm just saying, you should assume the best of intentions on their part.

Spoke my mind. You are awesome, mr. six pak.

It doesn't matter if someone is 'hamming it up with a non-muslim'...yes, he will get sin for that, but as for not saying salams to the girl, then he's being respectful and mindful of the man's gheerah.

Having said that, I *would* say salams in said such situation, but I would respect the man who didn't, just because of his good intention.

[Tairra]

Originally Posted by Ayooshi

I always thought it was impermissable......


Question: If a person of the opposite sex greets you with the Islamic greeting, do you have to reply to it, even if you are put to some discomfort by it?

It is obligatory to reply to the greeting of peace given by a Muslim, regardless of whether that Muslim is a man or woman.

Allah says: “If you are addressed with a greeting, then reply with a greeting that is better or return the (same) greeting.” [Sûrah al-Nisâ’: 86]

However, when replying to the greeting given by a member of the opposite sex, one must take care to reply in a suitable manner that is free from flirtation or innuendo.

The ruling is different regarding initiating salutations of peace with members of the opposite sex. It is merely permissible to do so when there is no fear of temptation. In the case where there is fear of temptation for either party, which is often the case when a young man greets a young lady, it should be avoided. As long as no temptation or mischief is feared, then there is no objection to initiating greetings with members of the opposite sex.

The proof for this is what is related by Asmâ’ bint Yazîd that: “the Prophet (peace be upon him) passes us – we were a group of women – and he greeted us with peace.” [Sunan Abî Dâwûd (5294) and Sunan Ibn Mâjah (3701)]

Sahl b. Sa`d related: “There used to be an old lady among us who, on Friday, would harvest greens. When we departed from our Jumu`ah prayers, we would greet her with peace.” [Sahîh al-Bukhârî (938)]

And Allah knows best.

Answered by Sheikh `Abd al-Rahmân b. Ibrâhîm al-`Uthmân, professor at al-Imâm University

no its not haram, you have the proof yourself, thats should be enough. But I will add this, again parenst influence and such. I mean its good to keep it limited but its not haram. A lot of people go by traditions and such and what people say. We muslims must not just go by what people say you must search for yourself, starting with the quran. I mean its kinda sad how people are like well brainwashed into such things, I mean this isnt bad (the salaaming) but otehrs things. and like saudi culture yeah its like really bad if they talk. I was told that guys would throw their number at you in order to try to talk to you, lol.