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aren't you supposed to be busy lookin for a wife?
Maybe he's waiting for the conclusion of this thread so he knows whether to say salaam to potentials or not
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What's an abstract question?
This one:

Could a group of people not all share in common a particular trait that makes them as precious as gems?

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Why is it necessarily the case here? The only property that is necessarily inherited through the metaphor is preciousness.
It follows from it logically:

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i dont see women as human beings just like everyone else, because Allah has made it pretty clear by the signs around us that we arent.

Allah tells us to stay in our houses and do pardah...and then look at everythign valuable in this world: diamonds, pearls, gold. Theyre nto just chilling out in the open...theyre way deep inside. Everything of value is hidden. The fact the He wants us hidden as well proves that the word "just" can never be placed infront of us. nobody ever says its "just" a diamond.
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Assalaamoalaikum..
It is not haraam.. Only it is better to avoid it because it couuld make one feel awkward.
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Assalamu aliakum, wa rahmthullah wa barakatu hu,

Hi all, I have just joined after a long break, and i could not able to go through all the 15 pages of this trhead.

just tell me, what is unanimous conclusion of this thread "Saying Salam to Opposite Gender."

What I know is, Women can convey salam to men, and Men can convey salam to women.

Hazrath Asma Ansariya said, she was sitting with her frinds and Rasoolullah (PBUH) conveyed salam to them, when he pased them.

Hazrath Umma Haani (raz) said, when i went to Rasoolullah(PBUH), Rasollullah was taking bath. and i conveyed Salam to Rasoolullah. He asked who was that. I replied, it is me, Umma Haani. Rasollullh said, welcome Umma Haani.

These two hadess are evident and clear, that we can convey our Salaam to opposite Gender.
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These two hadess are evident and clear, that we can convey our Salaam to opposite Gender.
No, this is a hasty conclusion. Do you know that some scholars said that the Prophet [s] was so masoom that he [s] could even touch females? I disagree with this view, but the point is that you cannot compare a situation in which there is no fear of fitnah (i.e. salams to the Prophet) to a situation in which there is a fear of fitnah (i.e. young men and women giving salams to each other).

I think ALL scholars would agree that giving salams is permissible except if there is fear of fitnah. This is something that all are agreed on. The only debate is over what constitutes fitnah. Some scholars have said young men and young women.
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Why do we have some women and effiminate men bickering about whether to salam the other gender or not when we have clearly established rulings in this matter?

Look ladies, I understand when a good looking brother doesn't salam u or look at u n all... n the things that go thru ure brain like "oh omg ...why's not lookin at me? im not THAT aaagly!! maybe its cuz of the pimple thats abt to pop out on my left cheek...etc"


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back home we have a word for the type of people who complicate everything in life. it has no english counterpart though.
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Why do we have some women and effiminate men bickering about whether to salam the other gender or not when we have clearly established rulings in this matter?

Look ladies, I understand when a good looking brother doesn't salam u or look at u n all... n the things that go thru ure brain like "oh omg ...why's not lookin at me? im not THAT aaagly!! maybe its cuz of the pimple thats abt to pop out on my left cheek...etc"


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back home we have a word for the type of people who complicate everything in life. it has no english counterpart though.
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back home we have a word for the type of people who complicate everything in life. it has no english counterpart though.
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Assalamu Alaikum wa rahmathullahi wa barakatuhu,

Rasoolullah (PBUH) said " you people can not enter in paradise, unless you become mu'min, and you can not become mu'min, unless you love each other, why dont i teach you the trick, by adopting which your can love each other... Just spread SALAM" (Mishkawth)

Dear Friends, we needt to undestand what does it mean by Salam, it is not just wishing, signalling or some thing like that. It is not just mixture of some letters or sentence to start our conversation, or to atract others attention.

Salam should be spelled with pure good intention and a conviction.

It is a power ful Dua that you are praying to allah for him you are facing.

By saying salam, you are conveying him, that

May Allah safe guard you by all means, safe guard your home, your family, your children, your relatives,

May Allah safe guard your deen and your eeman,your Duniya and Aaqirah,
and safe guard from all those things which are not in my knowledge, and

Be sure that i have only peace and good intentions in my heart for you,
hence you need not to bother for any misconduct or enemity from my side,
and you will not hurt by any manner from my side.

Just imagine, if you pronoucne the Salam having all the above in mind, is there any chance for fitnah..?

If still some one use Salaam for any other bad or ill mannered intention,
then, it will be according his intention, May allah safe guard him too.
because Innamal a'amaalu biln niyaat.

Hence, what i mean to say is Saying Salam is not only just lip movements,
but it must be spelled with great intention and true feeling for atmost care.

And Dua can be asked by any one for any one.
If intention is good, there is nothing wrong to convey salam to opposite Gneder.

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Saaf hay niyaath agar teri, to kiya parwah tujhey,
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Assalamu Alaikum wa rahmathullahi wa barakatuhu,

Rasoolullah (PBUH) said " you people can not enter in paradise, unless you become mu'min, and you can not become mu'min, unless you love each other, why dont i teach you the trick, by adopting which your can love each other... Just spread SALAM" (Mishkawth)

Dear Friends, we needt to undestand what does it mean by Salam, it is not just wishing, signalling or some thing like that. It is not just mixture of some letters or sentence to start our conversation, or to atract others attention.

Salam should be spelled with pure good intention and a conviction.

It is a power ful Dua that you are praying to allah for him you are facing.

By saying salam, you are conveying him, that

May Allah safe guard you by all means, safe guard your home, your family, your children, your relatives,

May Allah safe guard your deen and your eeman,your Duniya and Aaqirah,
and safe guard from all those things which are not in my knowledge, and

Be sure that i have only peace and good intentions in my heart for you,
hence you need not to bother for any misconduct or enemity from my side,
and you will not hurt by any manner from my side.

Just imagine, if you pronoucne the Salam having all the above in mind, is there any chance for fitnah..?

If still some one use Salaam for any other bad or ill mannered intention,
then, it will be according his intention, May allah safe guard him too.
because Innamal a'amaalu biln niyaat.

Hence, what i mean to say is Saying Salam is not only just lip movements,
but it must be spelled with great intention and true feeling for atmost care.

And Dua can be asked by any one for any one.
If intention is good, there is nothing wrong to convey salam to opposite Gneder.

Arz-e-Matlab se jhijhak jaana nahee zaiba tujhey
Saaf hay niyaath agar teri, to kiya parwah tujhey,
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Blah blah blah

No.
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I try to say it no matter what... many times I will say it low or in a whisper, Allahu'aalaam, but I pray for peace and forgiveness for my sister as I would want peace and forgiveness from Allah for myself.

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Blah blah blah

No.
Assalamu Alaikum,

Yes you are correct..!

"Blah blah blah..." NO..!! (blah blah blah will definitely lead to fitnah)

"Assalamu Alaikum to All" Yessss..!!! (this will lead to Flah..)
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