Shariah Police

[kellyjaz]

Assalamu 3alaikum warahmatuALLAHI wabarakatuh.


Using the Quran and Hadith, are "Shariah Police" allowed to force women to wear e.g. veil?

[m_ali_qazi]

Jaysh: Yes
Jamroll: No
Sixpak: No
TrentReznor: Islam sucks
Kona_Silat: bomb iraq
MossadConspiracy: I love egypt
Jinnzaman: it depends on the hegemonical diatribe of eurocentricism...OBFUSCATE THAT FOO!!!
m_ali_qazi: I love lamp

[kellyjaz]

Shukran.

May i see the evidence for "no" and "yes" please.

ps, kona should be bombed.grr

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m_ali_qazi said

Jaysh: Yes
Jamroll: No
Sixpak: No
TrentReznor: Islam sucks
Kona_Silat: bomb iraq
MossadConspiracy: I love egypt
Jinnzaman: it depends on the hegemonical diatribe of eurocentricism...OBFUSCATE THAT FOO!!!

Ibn M: No...i win you lose..thanks for trying
Wheelworks:
Timbit: FEMINIZM LYKE RULZ!
Shadha: I hate what ever it is we are talking about
Revert: Makes thread go on tangent then argues with everyone
m_ali_qazi: Gets on board the Peacetrain and writes a song about the thread.
sally: Memon Power!
LegalEagle: Pashtoon Power!

[m_ali_qazi]

Revert said

Ibn M: No...i win you lose..thanks for trying

LOL, oh snap

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m_ali_qazi said

LOL, oh snap

I love how all the characters on this site are easily lampooned..masha'Allah.

[sixpakistan]

if by veil you mean niqab, then no. if by veil you mean hijab, then yes, definitely. the basic islamic standard of modest dress is enforced on both men and women in a society governed by the laws of islam. pretty much every nation on earth has historically had a dress code based on standards of modesty.. enforcing the shariah standard of modesty is no different from a cultural standard of modest dress being enforced by any non-muslim nation.

[Jaysh]

sixpakistan said

if by veil you mean niqab, then no. if by veil you mean hijab, then yes, definitely. the basic islamic standard of modest dress is enforced on both men and women in a society governed by the laws of islam. pretty much every nation on earth has historically had a dress code based on standards of modesty.. enforcing the shariah standard of modesty is no different from a cultural standard of modest dress being enforced by any non-muslim nation.

Why can't the government enforce niqab?

[sixpakistan]

Jaysh said

Why can't the government enforce niqab?

you have a point. there's nothing unislamic or inherently wrong with a muslim government enforcing niqab. i guess it'd also depend on what madhab the land was primarily following and governed by, the condition of the people and the society, culture, etc.

[Jaysh]

sixpakistan said

you have a point. there's nothing unislamic or inherently wrong with a muslim government enforcing niqab. i guess it'd also depend on what madhab the land was primarily following and governed by, the condition of the people and the society, culture, etc.

Agreed.

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[Abu_Hind]

Jaysh said

Why can't the government enforce niqab?

I think it's because in matters of qadaa, the qaadi has to take into account all the various madhhahib and should avoid shoving one madhhab down everyone's throat. And since there's a "valid" ikhtilaaf over niqaab, it can not be forced upon anyone.

WAllahu a'alam.

[Jaysh]

Abu_Hind said

I think it's because in matters of qadaa, the qaadi has to take into account all the various madhhahib and should avoid shoving one madhhab down everyone's throat. And since there's a "valid" ikhtilaaf over niqaab, it can not be forced upon anyone.

WAllahu a'alam.

I thought that the government can implement its madhab on the people. Wallahu aalim.

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As the resident Eurocentric..I declare that this thread offends my Eurocentric sensibilities.

[Abu_Hind]

Jaysh said

I thought that the government can implement its madhab on the people. Wallahu aalim.

I think not if there are multiple madhhabs. I would like to call to your attention the incident that took place between Imam Malik and Khalifah Haroon al-rashid, the Caliph wanted to make his muwatta the official source of fiqh and Imam Malik refused. It shows that even the great jurists disliked it.

[Jaysh]

Abu_Hind said

I think not if there are multiple madhhabs. I would like to call to your attention the incident that took place between Imam Malik and Khalifah Haroon al-rashid, the Caliph wanted to make his muwatta the official source of fiqh and Imam Malik refused. It shows that even the great jurists disliked it.

Interesting point. Jazakh-Allah khair.