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Re: Wahhabis and their Ultimate Biddah
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That one too.
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Oh, I didn't realize there was another one
I think the Haqqani thread should probably be trashed
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Re: Wahhabis and their Ultimate Biddah
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Could we get jaysh to delete his anti-sufi thread too? seems only fair.
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How is that "anti-sufi"? Haqqani doesn't represent the mainstream Sufis, just as the madkhalis don't represent the mainstream Salafis. Majority of Sufis denounce Haqqani and his extreme innovations in religion. Create a thread bashing Madkhalis for all I care. That would be fair. I agree with whoever said this thread is counter-productive.
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How is that "anti-sufi"? Haqqani doesn't represent the mainstream Sufis, just as the madkhalis don't represent the mainstream Salafis. Majority of Sufis denounce Haqqani and his extreme innovations in religion. Create a thread bashing Madkhalis for all I care. That would be fair. I agree with whoever said this thread is counter-productive.
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Which Sufis denounce Haqqani?
Names and tariqas would be nice, inshaAllah.
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06-30-2008, 06:17 PM
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Re: Wahhabis and their Ultimate Biddah
I dont follow salafis/wahabhis. Most of the salafis i have met are narrow and close minded.
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Re: Wahhabis and their Ultimate Biddah
Jinnzaman and Jaysh have a signed a peace treaty--and alliance against the modernists--that will last ten turns.
However, Jaysh retains the right to unilaterally absolve the treaty should it become expedient to do so. He also demands a tribute of 100 golden lotas.
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The intention is to discuss the absurdity of the nature of some extremely annoying Salafi dudes...
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Asalamu Alaikum,
Saying someone is annoying is not a very healthy approach to discussing issues, as the discussion has already begun in a negative manner, rather than in an manner that is hand in hand with hikmah.
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Asalamu Alaikum,
Saying someone is annoying is not a very healthy approach to discussing issues, as the discussion has already begun in a negative manner, rather than in an manner that is hand in hand with hikmah.
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Are you denying the fact that a many Salafis are compulsively obsessed with Sufis and Shias in general? and justifying the innovations they habitually induldge in? they do so to such an absurd extent that they do not see the errors of their ways.. you never see them condemning their fellow terrorist Al-Qaeda salafis, the wahhabis of the najd, the corrupt Saudi munafiq regime, and the likes..
I see what you're trying to suggest here...but instead of giving suggestions from a bench outside the field, why dont you come forward and teach us the "healthy way to approaching issues" like this with hikmah?
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Are you denying the fact that a many Salafis are compulsively obsessed with Sufis and Shias in general? and justifying the innovations they habitually induldge in? they do so to such an absurd extent that they do not see the errors of their ways.. you never see them condemning their fellow terrorist Al-Qaeda salafis, the wahhabis of the najd, the corrupt Saudi munafiq regime, and the likes..
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The suggestion that I'm denying anything is quite off the point. Were discussing methods of approaching specific issues.
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I see what you're trying to suggest here...but instead of giving suggestions from a bench outside the field, why dont you come forward and teach us the "healthy way to approaching issues" like this with hikmah?
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You could've presented the issue without specific names, keep it as an issue we have among some groups of people, and how its upsetting the extremes some may go, one way or the other in regards to deen. Evidences from the Quran and Sunnah in regards to moderation in deen and dunya would have been a good overall strength to your argument.
Again, I'm not trying to mock you, its just that some members here do possess a good amount of knowledge and know what they're talking about, your amongst them, and your message would have a more profound effect if handled in the right way, thus benefitting people instead of putting them off inshaAllah.
and Allah(swt) knows best.
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Asalamu Alaikum,
The suggestion that I'm denying anything is quite off the point. Were discussing methods of approaching specific issues.
You could've presented the issue without specific names, keep it as an issue we have among some groups of people, and how its upsetting the extremes some may go, one way or the other in regards to deen. Evidences from the Quran and Sunnah in regards to moderation in deen and dunya would have been a good overall strength to your argument.
Again, I'm not trying to mock you, its just that some members here do possess a good amount of knowledge and know what they're talking about, your amongst them, and your message would have a more profound effect if handled in the right way, thus benefitting people instead of putting them off inshaAllah.
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stop being so boring...its the fire and brimstone that draws them... 
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stop being so boring...its the fire and brimstone that draws them... 
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stop being so boring...its the fire and brimstone that draws them... 
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"I tay'll you, I tay'll you my brothers and sisters, that you have to be say-eved!
Let's all praya now, Praya to your lord..."

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Asalamu Alaikum,
You both totally ruined the awesome mood of my post. Goshdarn!
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I think the Haqqani thread should probably be trashed
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I did a double-take when I read this...I thought you said that Haqqani should be trashed. 
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Re: Wahhabis and their Ultimate Biddah
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Are you denying the fact that a many Salafis are compulsively obsessed with Sufis and Shias in general? and justifying the innovations they habitually induldge in? they do so to such an absurd extent that they do not see the errors of their ways.. you never see them condemning their fellow terrorist Al-Qaeda salafis, the wahhabis of the najd, the corrupt Saudi munafiq regime, and the likes..
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Assalam Alaykum,
Errr, I think you need to hang with more Salafis. You do know that even among Salafis there is a division? In fact, as far as I know most Salafis on this board are anti-madkhali/Saudi Regime, etc.
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Assalam Alaykum,
Errr, I think you need to hang with more Salafis. You do know that even among Salafis there is a division? In fact, as far as I know most Salafis on this board are anti-madkhali/Saudi Regime, etc.
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And anti-SJ too. 
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*yawn*
I'm creating a new group that likes neither salafis nor sufis, care to join me?
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