[sixpakistan]

Originally Posted by Revert

The overall tone indicates the sly attitude. Maybe its just me and Jelly mill that get that vibe.

I know Jaysh didn't deal with Rahat that way because he's shia..he treats most people that either disagree with him or he thinks they are below him (knowledge wise). Its not a good way to deal with people especially a wannabe da'ee.

Only Allah knows what's in people's hearts.

I don't see Jaysh as being arrogant about the knowledge he has whatsoever. In fact, that's a trait he specifically despises. Knowing him, I know he doesn't take himself seriously at all.

He really is just genuinely angered by transgressions against the Sunnah and aspersions being cast on Sunnis as a whole, and while he might do well to try to curb his temper and deal with people more softly, in this situation & especially given the history with rahat, I don't really blame him. As Imam Shafi (RA) said, the man who does not get angry is a donkey.

[jinnzaman]

Originally Posted by Revert

The overall tone indicates the sly attitude. Maybe its just me and Jelly mill that get that vibe.

I know Jaysh didn't deal with Rahat that way because he's shia..he treats most people that either disagree with him or he thinks they are below him (knowledge wise). Its not a good way to deal with people especially a wannabe da'ee.

I think you're overanalyzing his posts and finding problems where there are none. If you can't point to a particular statement that substantiates your claim, then its probably just a suspicion or a feeling and nothing more than that.

Most of the people on this forum exhibit emotionalism when people disagree with them, whether its about movies or music or fashion or marriage. Forums involve discussion and discussion involves disagreement. I agree, his tactics are usually problematic, but I think that the comment he made in that particular post wasn't a manifestation of his usual antics.

[Revert]

Originally Posted by jinnzaman

I think you're overanalyzing his posts and finding problems where there are none. If you can't point to a particular statement that substantiates your claim, then its probably just a suspicion or a feeling and nothing more than that.

Most of the people on this forum exhibit emotionalism when people disagree with them, whether its about movies or music or fashion or marriage. Forums involve discussion and discussion involves disagreement. I agree, his tactics are usually problematic, but I think that the comment he made in that particular post wasn't a manifestation of his usual antics.

If you feel that way then more power to ya!

I personally don't but thats my right...or are you freedom hating Islamicans gonna revoke my license?

Originally Posted by sixpakistan

Only Allah knows what's in people's hearts.

I don't see Jaysh as being arrogant about the knowledge he has whatsoever. In fact, that's a trait he specifically despises. Knowing him, I know he doesn't take himself seriously at all.

He really is just genuinely angered by transgressions against the Sunnah and aspersions being cast on Sunnis as a whole, and while he might do well to try to curb his temper and deal with people more softly, in this situation & especially given the history with rahat, I don't really blame him. As Imam Shafi (RA) said, the man who does not get angry is a donkey.

The main thing is with Jaysh is he can flit between being an takfiri-esq defender of truth to a blubbering idiot (i mean that in the nice way) in five seconds, so its hard to judge when he's being serious or when he's acting like a fool.

its a message board at the end of the day and I shouldn't over analyse everything people say.

[PhDGirl]

Originally Posted by Revert

The overall tone indicates the sly attitude. Maybe its just me and Jelly mill that get that vibe.

I know Jaysh didn't deal with Rahat that way because he's shia..he treats most people that either disagree with him or he thinks they are below him (knowledge wise). Its not a good way to deal with people especially a wannabe da'ee.

It's not just you and jellymill, but there's no point in discussing it with his loyal friends.

[vegetables]

Originally Posted by PhDGirl

It's not just you and jellymill, but there's no point in discussing it with his loyal friends.

cosigned and cosigned

[Jaysh]

Revert, don't you think you are going a bit overboard with your criticism of me? I know we've had our tussles now and then, but I never thought you took it so seriously. Forgive me for any harm I have done to you. I really did not think that you were this opposed to me.

[Revert]

Originally Posted by Jaysh

Revert, don't you think you are going a bit overboard with your criticism of me? I know we've had our tussles now and then, but I never thought you took it so seriously. Forgive me for any harm I have done to you. I really did not think that you were this opposed to me.

I'm not opposed to you, you post some good stuff, i dislike the way you deal with people. Rather than stay silent I thought i'd say something in an attempt you take it onboard. I'd hope you do the same for me. Its better to differentiate between the persona and the person especially for Dawat purposes.

[jinnzaman]

Originally Posted by PhDGirl

It's not just you and jellymill, but there's no point in discussing it with his loyal friends.

Or maybe your just loyal friends of Revert and Jelly Mill?

Its all subjective.

I'm not talking about his antics in other threads, I'm talking about in this one in particular.

[Jaysh]

Originally Posted by jinnzaman

I'm not talking about his antics in other threads, I'm talking about in this one in particular.

Which antics? I appreciate you defending me bro, but seriously, what exactly are my antics?

[jinnzaman]

Originally Posted by Jaysh

Which antics? I appreciate you defending me bro, but seriously, what exactly are my antics?

The time you put that dress on and did that little dance on the table . . .

[Rambo]

Originally Posted by Jaysh

Revert, don't you think you are going a bit overboard with your criticism of me? I know we've had our tussles now and then, but I never thought you took it so seriously. Forgive me for any harm I have done to you. I really did not think that you were this opposed to me.

the problem is your attitude, i know you have a lot of knowledge and i have never denied that too, i just hope you are not this rude in real life dealing with people with less knowledge then you. Though this forum is pretty real too because so many non muslims visit it

[Rambo]

Originally Posted by Revert

I'm not opposed to you, you post some good stuff, i dislike the way you deal with people. Rather than stay silent I thought i'd say something in an attempt you take it onboard. I'd hope you do the same for me. Its better to differentiate between the persona and the person especially for Dawat purposes.

I totally agree with this

[jinnzaman]

I think this thread should be deleted and then re-started.

In the future, if anyone has anything to say to Jaysh, just PM him.

[Rambo]

Originally Posted by jinnzaman

I think this thread should be deleted and then re-started.

In the future, if anyone has anything to say to Jaysh, just PM him.

The pm is useless because it wont stop Jasyh from posting the things he does. This way the discussion is open and civilized. No body is hating Jasyh here, i personally just want him to improve his attitude ini dealing with people. it doesn't look good on a person with knowledge of islam

[jinnzaman]

Originally Posted by Rambo

The pm is useless because it wont stop Jasyh from posting the things he does. This way the discussion is open and civilized. No body is hating Jasyh here, i personally just want him to improve his attitude ini dealing with people. it doesn't look good on a person with knowledge of islam

Have you tried PMing him before?