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i have always wanted to know what drives them too commit such crimes . Is there any justification in islam of what they do?? i know this has been asked many times but i still want to know this? why are they so committed and determined to do these evil acts?
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i have always what drives them too commit such crimes . Is there any justification in islam of what they do?? i know this has been asked many times but i still want to know this? why are they so committed and determined to do these evil acts?

War, poor living conditions, frustration, parents dead, revenge, lack of purpose in life..... but not anything from islam..

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Old 06-12-2008, 09:25 PM
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i have always what drives them too commit such crimes . Is there any justification in islam of what they do?? i know this has been asked many times but i still want to know this? why are they so committed and determined to do these evil acts?
Suicide is completely forbidden in Islam, and even the people who take part in these bombings know that. But they are led to believe that what they're doing is not suicide, but rather a legitimate means of attacking an enemy. So they believe they will get from Allah the reward of a mujahid rather than the punishment of suicide.
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why are they so committed and determined to do these evil acts?

Lack of white women to marry.
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what convinces "normal" people to commit suicide?
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72 sturgeons.
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72 sturgeons.
72???? That's a heck of a lot of ugly, huge, surprisingly delicious fish



I didn't realize the ummah was that interested in fishing
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i have always wanted to know what drives them too commit such crimes . Is there any justification in islam of what they do??
In regards to suicide bombing, the issue can be divided into two:

1. Suicide bombing against non-combatants.
2. Suicide bombing against armed combatants.

In regards to the first (i.e. against non-combatants), there is consensus amongst all that this is most definitely haram (forbidden), since hurting a civilian is not permissible in Islam.

In regards to the second (i.e. against armed combatants), there are two views amongst scholars, but the stronger opinion is that it is forbidden, as it is a form of suicide. This was the view of Shaykh Ibn Uthaymeen.

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what convinces "normal" people to commit suicide?
I disagree. The motivating factors for suicide bombers differs dramatically from what motivates other people to commit suicide by other means, such as hanging, poisoning, etc.

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72 sturgeons.
I disagree with this view too. It is not 72 virgins which motivates people to do this heinous act.

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Lack of white women to marry.
I disagree wit this view as well. I know both you and Jinnz are just joking, but just to make it clear. These two reasons are NOT why people do it.

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War, poor living conditions, frustration, parents dead, revenge, lack of purpose in life..... but not anything from islam..
I disagree. I used to think this too, before I read the ground-breaking book by Gallup, which is entitled "Who Speaks for Islam?" Gallup conducted the largest ever poll of Muslims, and looked into the reasons that cause people to become radicalized. What they found was that it had nothing to do with poverty or being uneducated. Instead, they found that those Muslims who became radicalized did not necessarily come from poor or uneducated backgrounds. Rather, it has more to do with closely following politics and being frustrated with what they perceive as Western imperialism.
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dude destroy their command center and they will stop
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72???? That's a heck of a lot of ugly, huge, surprisingly delicious fish



I didn't realize the ummah was that interested in fishing
C'mon. 72 sturgeons? You'd stick a fork in someone's face for that many fish.
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dude destroy their command center and they will stop
hhaha, that game is awesome! when is SC2 coming out?
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C'mon. 72 sturgeons? You'd stick a fork in someone's face for that many fish.
My grandpa used to fish for sturgeon. Those fish are ENORMOUS, and they kinda taste like chicken, not fishy at all.
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hhaha, that game is awesome! when is SC2 coming out?
its still in development with no release date *i think*. i hope they keep the old game play, and no gay heros like wc3
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I disagree. I used to think this too, before I read the ground-breaking book by Gallup, which is entitled "Who Speaks for Islam?" Gallup conducted the largest ever poll of Muslims, and looked into the reasons that cause people to become radicalized. What they found was that it had nothing to do with poverty or being uneducated. Instead, they found that those Muslims who became radicalized did not necessarily come from poor or uneducated backgrounds. Rather, it has more to do with closely following politics and being frustrated with what they perceive as Western imperialism.
thats the excuse that they give and does not explain why they choose to blow themselves up as a response to the political situation
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why are they so committed and determined to do these evil acts?
...everybody's doing it!

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