[ShahRukh]

Who is he? Is he an orthodox sunni Sufi shaykh? or another controversial Sufi?

As far as wiki is concerned, he writes a lot against tyrannical oppressive rulers of the Ummah.

Abdalqadir as-Sufi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[m_ali_qazi]

i liked what i read from his articles, but that was a long time ago


also, he was friends with eric clapton and he gave clapton a copy of layla majnu, the muslim love story, then eric clapton wrote the song layla

[jinnzaman]

I don't think anyone on this forum is of the requisite knowledge and spiritual status to make judgment on the Shaykh, so inshaAllah, lets not get into debates.

All that needs to be stated is that his understanding of aqeedah, fiqh, and tasawwuf is fairly traditional in so far as he is Ashari, Maliki, and linked to the Darqawi tariqa.

However, he has received his fair of criticism from some members of Sunniforum where Deobandis and Murabitun folks battle it out all the time.

[rahma]

Originally Posted by jinnzaman

However, he has received his fair of criticism from some members of Sunniforum where Deobandis and Murabitun folks battle it out all the time.

One of which just got started over the the shaykh's labeling of niqab as a hindu face covering that is an evil bida.

[Jamroll]

lol, wait til LegalEagle sees this thread. He's gonna go ape.

[jinnzaman]

Originally Posted by rahma

One of which just got started over the the shaykh's labeling of niqab as a hindu face covering that is an evil bida.

Nothing new.

They've had that same exact debate before.

[Revert]

Who freaking cares? None of us are fit to judge the Shaykh's understanding of Al-Islam. I didn't realise he was the reason Clapton wrote layla..thats freaking cool.


Sunniforum is too... i dunno serene...well its too nicey nice for me.

Theres a few knowledgeable folk over there but most of them play at being Shaykh to much.

[jinnzaman]

Originally Posted by Revert

Who freaking cares? None of us are fit to judge the Shaykh's understanding of Al-Islam. I didn't realise he was the reason Clapton wrote layla..thats freaking cool.


Sunniforum is too... i dunno serene...well its too nicey nice for me.

Theres a few knowledgeable folk over there but most of them play at being Shaykh to much.

I think the alleged classification of niqab as a 'hindu practice' and innovation is problematic, but I'm gonna give him the benefit of the doubt and presume there's a misunderstanding. I've never heard of anyone make the argument that niqab was a hindu practice. I've heard people argue that it was a practice from jahiliyyah and therefore isn't obligatory.

[Revert]

Originally Posted by jinnzaman

I think the alleged classification of niqab as a 'hindu practice' and innovation is problematic, but I'm gonna give him the benefit of the doubt and presume there's a misunderstanding. I've never heard of anyone make the argument that niqab was a hindu practice. I've heard people argue that it was a practice from jahiliyyah and therefore isn't obligatory.

Who knows where he got it from. The useless debate over on sunniforum is less than productive.

Maybe it is an obscure Hindu practice, maybe it does predate the Arab use of it. I don't know for sure but maybe thats what the Shyakh has read somewhere.

[jinnzaman]

Originally Posted by Revert

Who knows where he got it from. The useless debate over on sunniforum is less than productive.

Maybe it is an obscure Hindu practice, maybe it does predate the Arab use of it. I don't know for sure but maybe thats what the Shyakh has read somewhere.

There's a difference between not making judgment because its not clear about what a person says and not making judgment on a clearly ludicrous statement.

The belief that niqab is a Hindu practice is patently absurd since there are narrations about it and there are mujtahids within the Ummah who have recognized it as either fardh or wajib and referring it to that is a pretty big smack into their faces.

We should question whether the Shaykh said that and not the content of the statement itself, which is clearly false.

[Abu_Hind]

Originally Posted by jinnzaman

There's a difference between not making judgment because its not clear about what a person says and not making judgment on a clearly ludicrous statement.

The belief that niqab is a Hindu practice is patently absurd since there are narrations about it and there are mujtahids within the Ummah who have recognized it as either fardh or wajib and referring it to that is a pretty big smack into their faces.

We should question whether the Shaykh said that and not the content of the statement itself, which is clearly false.

It's on his official website.

[jinnzaman]

Originally Posted by Abu_Hind

It's on his official website.

In that case, I'll round up the village mob. You get the torches and pitchforks.

[Abu_Hind]

Originally Posted by jinnzaman

In that case, I'll round up the village mob. You get the torches and pitchforks.

Sure thing.

[Revert]

Originally Posted by jinnzaman

There's a difference between not making judgment because its not clear about what a person says and not making judgment on a clearly ludicrous statement.

The belief that niqab is a Hindu practice is patently absurd since there are narrations about it and there are mujtahids within the Ummah who have recognized it as either fardh or wajib and referring it to that is a pretty big smack into their faces.

We should question whether the Shaykh said that and not the content of the statement itself, which is clearly false.

I know there are narrations on the status and usuage of the Niqaab in Arab culture, however no one knows if and when it was a hindu practice or not. Like I said maybe the Shaykh has co me across some obscure Hindu text, i don't know as i didn't read his fatwa/article.

[ChotooMotoo]

Originally Posted by jinnzaman

In that case, I'll round up the village mob. You get the torches and pitchforks.

Just stay away from the white sheet-like costumes in the hall closet. Revert and I need those for our... uhh... stuff.