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Refuting "shaykh" Hamza Yusuf
You will find people using the aayah, “And if they incline to peace, then incline to it and trust in Allah…” (8:61)
And they use this against the Mujaahideen of today saying things like, “America is trying to bring peace with Democracy whereas you cause all this havoc… the Americans want peace, so you must also want it…”
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05-16-2008, 10:32 AM
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Re: Refuting "shaykh" Hamza Yusuf
If you're going to go head to head with HY, better come packing more than your garden variety Shaykh Whatcha Mamma Gaveya. The man's sparse words did nothing to "refute" HY's outstanding body of work. Incoherence at best.
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05-16-2008, 10:36 AM
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Re: Refuting "shaykh" Hamza Yusuf
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You will find people using the aayah, “And if they incline to peace, then incline to it and trust in Allah…” (8:61)
And they use this against the Mujaahideen of today saying things like, “America is trying to bring peace with Democracy whereas you cause all this havoc… the Americans want peace, so you must also want it…”
Watch this video for the response:
YouTube - Refuting Hamza Yusuf's followers on "peace"
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You are a complete moron. People like you should be shot for your utter stupidity.
I love how the terrorist video says "some use shaykh hamza's argument to say..."
DID HAMZA YUSUF SAY THAT OR NOT?!
Why are you being like Fox News and saying "some say..."
Who says!?
You terrorist lovers make me sick.
This video is made by terrorist lovers. As-sahab is the media outlet for bin ladin and his ilk of terrorists.
YES, WE SHOULD INCLINE TOWARDS PEACE IF THEY INCLINE TOWARDS PEACE. This is in our Quran. Sorry that it's not in your terrorist belief system ,but it's in our beautiful Quran.
We are not war-mongers. We are peace mongers. Allah [swt] loves the one who brings peace.
This terrorist crap might fly in a crazy forum like Islamic Awakening, but it WON'T fly here.
No dogs of hellfire allowed here.
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Re: Refuting "shaykh" Hamza Yusuf
Is America bringing peace in Iraak, Filisteen, Khurasaan?
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05-16-2008, 10:42 AM
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Re: Refuting "shaykh" Hamza Yusuf
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Is America bringing peace in Iraak, Filisteen, Khurasaan?
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Listen idiot, SHOW me the quote of Sh. Hamza Yusuf. SHOW IT IF YOU ARE TRUTHFUL.
Don't use Fox news crap like "some say..." WHO says?
I saw the clip you posted, and whatever Sh. Hamza said was beautiful and a part of our beautiful religion.
May Allah [swt] save us from the dogs of hell fire.
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First of all ahki watch your adaab.. If you want to have a conversation do it with respect...calling me an idiot and a dog of hellfire only makes you look ignorant not me..  Jazakallah khair
Secondly this video of "shaykh" Hamza Yusuf quoting the ayaat of the Quraan "if they incline towards peace than you should incline also". No one is refuting this ayaat ahki. What this video is refuting are Hamza Yusuf and his students who take this ayaat incorrectly to say that the west is coming to our land (Iraak, Filisteen, Khurasaan, and many more) for establishing peace, but in reality they are dropping 500 lbs bomb, murdering innocent women and children, raping our sisters and mother.. How is this peace?
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What this video is refuting are Hamza Yusuf and his students who take this ayaat incorrectly to say that the west is coming to our land (Iraak, Filisteen, Khurasaan, and many more) for establishing peace, but in reality they are dropping 500 lbs bomb, murdering innocent women and children, raping our sisters and mother.. How is this peace?
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umm.... proof that they actually say this????
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First of all ahki watch your adaab.. If you want to have a conversation do it with respect...calling me an idiot and a dog of hellfire only makes you look ignorant not me..  Jazakallah khair
Secondly this video of "shaykh" Hamza Yusuf quoting the ayaat of the Quraan "if they incline towards peace than you should incline also". No one is refuting this ayaat ahki. What this video is refuting are Hamza Yusuf and his students who take this ayaat incorrectly to say that the west is coming to our land (Iraak, Filisteen, Khurasaan, and many more) for establishing peace, but in reality they are dropping 500 lbs bomb, murdering innocent women and children, raping our sisters and mother.. How is this peace?
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none of shaykh hamza's students claim that America is bringing peace and democracy in the middle east
shaykh hamza, his peers and his students always have the overall message of bringing people from both worlds together against corruption, murder and occupations.
unfortunately for you bro, if you wanna have peace with the kuffar, you have to work with the kuffar for peace because there's more kafirs in the world that want peace with you then there are that want war with you
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First of all ahki watch your adaab.. If you want to have a conversation do it with respect...calling me an idiot and a dog of hellfire only makes you look ignorant not me..  Jazakallah khair
Secondly this video of "shaykh" Hamza Yusuf quoting the ayaat of the Quraan "if they incline towards peace than you should incline also". No one is refuting this ayaat ahki. What this video is refuting are Hamza Yusuf and his students who take this ayaat incorrectly to say that the west is coming to our land (Iraak, Filisteen, Khurasaan, and many more) for establishing peace, but in reality they are dropping 500 lbs bomb, murdering innocent women and children, raping our sisters and mother.. How is this peace?
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Substantiate your claim.
PROVE to us that Hamza Yusuf ever said that America is bringing peace in Iraq, Palestine, and Afghanistan.
Prove it.
Until then, you are a lying dog.
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I don't think Hamza Yusuf is guilty of what you accuse him of.
You gotta chill out kid, I think you're hanging with the wrong crowd. You don't learn deen from online DIY shaiks.
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It's not the first time Shaykh Hamza Yusuf is taken out of context by some crazy wahhabis...its so funny to watch their emotional outbursts against the Shaykh hahah
There's one guy that called the Shaykh a mushrikh on youtube naudobillah...
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It's not the first time Shaykh Hamza Yusuf is taken out of context by some crazy wahhabis...its so funny to watch their emotional outbursts against the Shaykh hahah 
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Some crazy wahabi?
What about your crazy soofis? Hisham kabbani and company. jokers.
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Some crazy wahabi?
What about your crazy soofis? Hisham kabbani and company. jokers.
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shahrukh runs with haqqanis?
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shahrukh runs with haqqanis?
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I was jump lumping all Soofis together like Shah Rukh lumping al-qaeda terrorist lovers with Salafis (who hate Al-Qaeda).
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*yawns*
is it over yet?
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