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It's not about being stupid. It's a different way of thinking than what we've been brought up to. I was never raised to believe in the Trinity, so I don't get it either. However, my friends who were, even the ones who converted to Islam, understand it, and don't think that Christians are really polytheists.
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Ibn Umar [ra] said:
"I do not know of a greater thing, as regards to ascribing partners in worship, etc. to Allah, than that a lady should say that Jesus is her Lord although he is just one of Allah's slaves."
( Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 63, #209)
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Ibn Umar [ra] said:
"I do not know of a greater thing, as regards to ascribing partners in worship, etc. to Allah, than that a lady should say that Jesus is her Lord although he is just one of Allah's slaves."
(Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 63, #209)
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Re: Most Important Commandment in Bible
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Ibn Umar [ra] said:
"I do not know of a greater thing, as regards to ascribing partners in worship, etc. to Allah, than that a lady should say that Jesus is her Lord although he is just one of Allah's slaves."
(Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 63, #209)
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that's a very interesting saying by Abdullah ibn Umar (radiallahu anhum), thanks for sharing.
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Then it's one bigot saying something to another bigot.
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Then it's one bigot saying something to another bigot.
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"getting it" and accepting it are two different things
Variable didnt imply that he accepts, but he said he understands it.....doesnt make him a dog bro
and even if he did accept it, it wouldnt make him a dog, if God didnt him make him a muslim then thats fine
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"getting it" and accepting it are two different things
Variable didnt imply that he accepts, but he said he understands it.....doesnt make him a dog bro
and even if he did accept it, it wouldnt make him a dog, if God didnt him make him a muslim then thats fine
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I am not calling him a dog just for this thread. Rather, it was due to the fact that I'm tired of seeing his idiotic posts on Islamica.
And he is a dog not because he is not Muslim, but because he barks.
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The dog Variable barks again. Nothing new.
Stop being stupid. It's not only Muslims or Islamicans who "don't get it". Rather, MANY Christians don't get it either, and THOUSANDS of Christians convert to Islam for this reason, namely that they "don't get it". And the reason they don't get it is because it doesn't make sense.
We should stop pandering to this stupid dog Variable who spouts out absolute nonsense.
Regardless of how much Variable barks, the truth is that thousands of people will continue to convert to Islam because they can't understand the concept of Trinity. He can continue his barking.
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They believe those are three parts of one thing.
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05-15-2008, 01:38 PM
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yes, just like Hinduism. Their gods are actually manifestations "of one thing"
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Yes, JUST LIKE Hinduism. Something to ponder, Christians.
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There's really no point. I've tried before, and nobody here is going to say they get it even if they do.
I don't even believe in it, and I get it fine... it's not like it's some difficult concept.
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I really don't think anyone is being purposefully or spitefully obtuse about this. You're right, superficially the idea is straightforward: Christians believe that God has three aspects which are unique and distinct from one another but nevertheless mere faces of the same entity.
However, you must understand that *even while accepting that this is what Christians believe* Muslims have a very hard time processing this concept because of our notion of tawhid. We look at the "unity of God" in a very different manner, and it is incompatible with making any "part" of God at all distinct from another part, especially to the degree where these parts have distinct personalities. In other words, while the definition of "Trinity-as-unity" is not incomprehensible, to us it is utterly incompatible with pure monotheism.
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If it's not a difficult concept how come none of us will get it? Surely not all of us are too stupid to get it.
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I was raised in a Trinitarian church. I know what it means but I don't "get" it..ya feel me?
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I know what it means but I don't "get" it..ya feel me?
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*feels Revert*
*finds him to be rather lumpy*
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*feels Revert*
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my head is lumpy..i just cropped my hair..feels funny... *drools*
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"You have so much, but you gave us so little," the children complained.
"There is no difference whether you have a basketful or a small piece. They all taste the same," Hodja remarked.
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