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Thanks for posting.

Alhamdulillah, what wonderful talent. May Allah help her to keep up the good works.

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Alhamdulillah, what wonderful talent. May Allah help her to keep up the good works.
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Allah will help her, but the backward-minded Sunni men who can't control their selfish desires certainly won't help her. Quite the opposite actually; they will shun her as a Nasheed-singer and reject her right to sing, simply because she is a woman and because they can't control their carnal emotions every time they hear the voice of a woman. This is why you will never see a Muslim woman on stage at a Sunni Nasheed-concert, and why all the Nasheed-singers on this website are 100% male: http://www.thenasheedshop.com . They try to twist the Qur'an to fit their twisted mentality, even though their only basis is their women-hating imagination and the corruption and lies in their Hadith which their own hands have created in the first place.

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Allah will help her, but the backward-minded Sunni men who can't control their selfish desires certainly won't help her. Quite the opposite actually; they will shun her as a Nasheed-singer and reject her right to sing, simply because she is a woman and because they can't control their carnal emotions every time they hear the voice of a woman. This is why you will never see a Muslim woman on stage at a Sunni Nasheed-concert, and why all the Nasheed-singers on this website are 100% male: http://www.thenasheedshop.com . They try to twist the Qur'an to fit their twisted mentality, even though their only basis is their women-hating imagination and the corruption and lies in their Hadith which their own hands have created in the first place.

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It surely is a harsh statement. Allah(swt) knows best.
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SubhanAllah MashAllah So beautiful..

Ahh May Allah help her and keep her strong.
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Another video of Mais Shalash performing live:



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wow subhanAllah she has an amazing voice. Brother Ameen, from having read your previous post, im def interested in hearing more about why a women IS allowed to sing. I myself have grown up thinking its been wrong..i've been wanting to enquir this since a very long time.

So is it islamically allowed for a women to sing ( as does Mais Shalash)?
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wow subhanAllah she has an amazing voice. Brother Ameen, from having read your previous post, im def interested in hearing more about why a women IS allowed to sing. I myself have grown up thinking its been wrong..i've been wanting to enquir this since a very long time.

So is it islamically allowed for a women to sing ( as does Mais Shalash)?

salam,

In the Qur'an, Allah makes clear for us that which is Halal and that which is Haram, so if it was Haram for women to sing, then Allah would not forget to make this clear in the Qur'an. Not in a single Verse of the Qur'an does Allah forbid women from singing, either alone or in public, so declaring this to be Haram would mean telling a lie against Allah and the Qur'an. This is made clear by the following Qur'anic Verses:

"Do not declare falsely with your tongues: 'This is Halal and this is Haram' – inventing lies against Allah. Indeed, those who invent lies against Allah will never prosper." – (16:116)

"Oh you who believe! Do not declare Haram the good things which Allah has made Halal for you, and do not transgress the limits. Indeed, Allah does not like those who transgress limits." – (5:1)


As for Hadith, the following is what Yusuf Al-Qaradawi – the famous Sunni scholar – says about the Hadith which refer to singing:

"...it is clear that the religious texts that stand as a basis for those who maintain that singing is haram are either ambiguous or inauthentic. None of the hadiths attributed to Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) is valid as evidence on the judgment of prohibition. Moreover, all these hadiths are declared ‘weak’ by the followers of Ibn Hazm, Malik, Ibn Hanbal, and Ash-Shafi`i.

In his book, Al-Ahkam, Al-Qadi Abu Bakr Ibn Al-`Arabi says, “None of the hadiths maintaining that singing is prohibited are considered authentic (by the scholars of the Science of Hadith Methodology).” The same view is maintained by Al-Ghazali and Ibn An-Nahwi in Al-`Umdah. Ibn Tahir says, “Not even a single letter from all these Hadiths was proved to be authentic.

Ibn Hazm says, “All the hadiths narrated in this respect were invented and falsified.


- http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/S...=1119503544202


Also, Yusuf Al-Qaradawi has actually met Mais Shalash in person, and he directly gave her an explicit permission to sing Nasheeds the way she does:




In other words, there is no legitimite basis in Islam to claim that it's not allowed for women to sing in public.

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Hijabi Shah,

I am very happy to see your posts here. It is very enlightening indeed.

As you can see, following "sources" of religion other than the Qur'an leads mankind to confusion and deprivation. It leads people into uncertainty and unauthorised prohibitions and restrictions.

I hope you can see the importance of adhering to the Qur'an alone. There is no such thing as a weak Qur'anic Verse, or a fabricated Verse as with Hadith which can lead people to differing views. The Qur'an is entirely protected by Allah.

Can you see how talents like Mys Shalash's are kept hidden from the world? It is unbelievable.

I want Mys to be invited to GPU (Global Peace & Unity Event), and other such nasheed concerts. However the people in charge will need a lot of convincing for it to happen. I am thinking of writing a letter to Islam Channel, and I hope all those who support her will do similiar to support her.

At the moment, she has a good platform in the Middle East, alhamdulillah.

You would immagine people would open their arms to her, welcomming her completely around the world to nasheed events, but no, it is the other way round. Very depressing indeed.

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One thing confuses me though.

Is it not wirtten in the Quran that a women shouldn't speak too softly or beautify her voice (im not too sure on the exact wordings..dont quote me on this) ? See, to me it makes sense if a women can not sing publically because her voice will attract men. But then i get a little confused (again lol) because a mans voice is attractive and desirable too. BUT then again men are weaker when it comes to the desire of women.

I think what i'm trying to say is, i need to be 110% convinced that a women is allowed to sing publically. im not questioning Yusuf Al-Qaradawi and other scholars, dont get me wrong. man my brain hurts
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One thing confuses me though.

Is it not wirtten in the Quran that a women shouldn't speak too softly or beautify her voice (im not too sure on the exact wordings..dont quote me on this) ? See, to me it makes sense if a women can not sing publically because her voice will attract men. But then i get a little confused (again lol) because a mans voice is attractive and desirable too. BUT then again men are weaker when it comes to the desire of women.

I think what i'm trying to say is, i need to be 110% convinced that a women is allowed to sing publically. im not questioning Yusuf Al-Qaradawi and other scholars, dont get me wrong. man my brain hurts
Sorry for the late reply.

The most popular use of the Qur'an is to conceal women, this has been well done over the centuries by so-called learned "Muslim" men who own the religion.

The Qur'anic Verse which is often quoted and misunderstood is 33:32. People hide the fact that this Verse is EXCLUSIVELY for the wives of the Prophet:

"Oh wives of the prophet, you are not like any other women. If you are righteous, then do not speak too softly, lest those with disease in their hearts will move with desire; you shall speak in an honourable manner." [Qur'an 33:32]

People, or men rather, intentionally misinterpret this Verse to mean all women in a quest to keep women under the blanket of darkness so that they may live life in their own terms, in a "fithnah-less" society, "fithnah" meaning any hint of women.

Notice that the Verse makes clear that:

1) the Verse is addressed ONLY to the wives of the Prophet: "Oh Wives of the prophet..."

2) and also the wives of the Prophet are NOT like any other women, ie. any other women can NEVER be like the wives of the Prophet: "You are not like any other women...". This means the Verse does not extend to anybody else by the slightest of imagination.

Therefore, the Verse is applicable ONLY to the wives of the Prophet and does not extend to other believers. In the Qur'an, the wives of the Prophet occupy an exclusive status and they can never be compared with other believing women. This is shown by other Verses which speak exclusively to them:

1) They are like the "mothers of the believers", but ordinary believing women are not like "mothers of the believers" (33:6), this title gives them a unique status.

2) Believing men shall speak to the wives of the Prophet from behind a curtain, but this is not required when speaking to ordinary believing women (33:53).

3) Ordinary believing men are not allowed to EVER marry the wives of the Prophet (33:53), such is their special status.

The above clearly tells us of the unique status of the wives of the Prophet. Likewise, the Verse 33:32 is refering to ONLY the wives of the Prophet, and this is made VERY clear in the Verse it self. It cannot be used to mean all women. Let us read it once more:

"O wives of the prophet, you are not like any other women. If you are righteous, then do not speak too softly, lest those with disease in their hearts will move with desire; you shall speak in an honourable manner." [Qur'an 33:32]

When the Qur'an wishes to address ordinary believing women, it addresses them as "believing women" eg. "And tell the believing women..." (24:31). Or in the following Verse, the women to be addressed have been clearly identified: "O prophet, tell your wives, your daughters, and the wives of the believers..." (33:59). In short, Allah carefully makes it clear to whom He is addressing what, and we must not muddle them up to suite personal wishes. When He wishes to address the wives of the Prophet, He does so clearly, when He wishes to address ordinary believing women, He does this clearly too.

It should be abundently clear that Verse 33:32 cannot be used to stop Mais Shalash, or women in general from singing in public.

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BUT then again men are weaker when it comes to the desire of women.
This is a lie propagated by the clergy and extra-Quranic sources. Men and women have been designed to have equal attraction and desire of one another.

This hoax is made up in order to support all sorts of concealments and prohibitions of women not found in the Qur'an.

I hope you are absolutely clear in your mind that believing women have not been prohibited to sing publicly any where in the Qur'an. If you have any doubts to this, or any question regarding this, please feel free to ask and I will be more than happy to help.

If you can rid yourself from all un-Quranic laws and can understand the Qur'an according to what it really says with an open and unprejudiced mind, and not what a fathwa or some other Saying says, then you would have discovered the real Qur'an and have opened a path of gaining endless wisdom and knowledge, directly from Our Lord: a great blessing indeed.

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Isn't a womans voice her awrah or are we making an exception?
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Assalam Alaykum

A Womans voice is not initially Awrah. Because there are ahadith and different narrations that tell us about how Women would speak to the Prophet sallalahu alayhi wasallam and ask him questions or say, complain to the Khalifah. However, if a Woman beautifes her voice, makes it soft or prolongs it and so on or she naturally has a beautiful voice, then it becomes Awrah. And that is the view off a lot of Ulema from the Ahlus Sunnah.