[Rambo]

^ ya compelety agree with the above post

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Originally Posted by Good_ol_JR

LOL wtf so now Salafi laymen such as yourselves have the ability to see Imaan along with your ability to declare takfeer. I actually have a lot of respect for various Salafi scholars even though I'm not one personally; but the problem is a lot of their followers are nothing but arrogant attention-whores with absolutely no manners who thrive on conflict. They're the main reason why the Salafi movement will never win the hearts and minds of mainstream Muslims. Regardless of how great some of their leaders may be; no one wants to hold hands with the whores surrounding them.


Remember a couple years back, Sh. Yusuf Estes who I have a lot of respect for made friendly, constructive criticism of one of the practices at the Zaytuna Institute of Hamza Yusuf. The two groups discussed the issue and respectfully agreed to disagree and made amends and it should have ended right there but it didn't because a bunch of Salafi laymen became prostitute cheerleaders and bashed the entire Zaytuna inst. and all associated w/ them. They called for boycotting Zaytuna and Sunnipath events, causing others students to call for the boycotting of Al-Maghrib which was f'd up because there are all great places to learn Islam and the 3 organizations have utmost respect for one another. IA once the attention-whores are eliminated from this Ummah we can finally unite. Until then no matter how great there scholars may be, the ignorant laymen amongst them will always hold the Salafi movement down



It's really kind symbolic to your posts on Islamica, Hanbali; every once in a while you will make a decent, knowledgeable post. However, it is almost always followed up by plenty of emo. rants showcasing your inability to control your anger and exposing you as the attention-***** you are.

In regards to the Shaykh, I will apologize for labeling him with to broad a brush, however as previously mentioned he has been criticized quite a few times by sources such as Islamic Thinkers Society (not that I alway agree with them but they have many valid arguments). Also like all scholars with current links to Saudi he will always be scrutinized. I do not know if it is necessarily justifiable but that is just what happens given Saudis poor reputation

All that aside though, I will apologize for speaking ill of his scholarship or personal aims however, his interpretation of the Khurusan Hadith is a minority opinion; because the majority accept the narration based upon the fact when there are hadith with weak chains but several narrations; the scholars can raise it to a sound Hasan Hadith, which is just under the level of Sahih. And that is why the Khurusan narration is almost unanimously accepted; along with the fact that the Abbasids, who did not even come from Khurusan, tried to exploit the hadith in the first place because so many accepted it as hasan.


I do not believe the poster made any such mention of that; it is not possible to be "racist" against Saudis or Arabs because we unanimously accepted that the Mahdi himself will be residing in Medina and that the pious people of Medina will be the first to appoint him and give Bayah to him. That said, the army from Khurusan which actually protects the Mahdi is said to be pre-dominantly non-Arab which makes perfect sense since Arabs are not the majority of this Ummah. But the reasons why many find it tempting to be hostile towards Saudis who reject this hadith is because it's easy to see that they don't want accept a bunch of Rafiqs (slur used against foreigners by Saudis) as the protectors and army of the Mahdi



Sorry but you cannot simply label those who dislike the Saudi regime as being from the imaginary group known as Al-Qaeda; speaking out against an unjust puppet government is not equivalent to declaring global jihad through illegal and unjust means.




That's perfectly fine by me because the Saudis have already shot themselves in the foot and they will get what's coming to them once they run out of oil and are no longer useful to their colonial masters. IMO it is not long till we see an Israeli flag over the Jeddah (though it's already there symbolically) and it shall remain until the Madinah is discovered in Medina and the army from Khurusan arrives.

So there is no reason for us to revolt to see the regime destroyed they're headed there anyways; but don't ever think I will accept it as being a just Islamic society because they're about as close to that as the Red Light District of Amsterdam

Exactly.

The Saud love to advise others to do what they fail to do themselves.

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^ kinda funny hanabali didn't reply to above posts