[Timbit]

So what does wajib mean and what are some wajib tings?

Wajib Tings:
Growing a beard (if you're Hanafi?)

[bihari]

Originally Posted by Timbit

So what does wajib mean and what are some wajib tings?

Wajib Tings:
Growing a beard (if you're Hanafi?)

fard = required and mentioned in the quran
wajib = not mentioned in quran but very important (idk about required, bec we cant be 100% sure with hadith, but ill look into it)

but i know there is a wajib prayer after isha

and i dont believe the beard is wajib

[Rida]

By Mufti Ebrahim Desai
Posted: 15 Safar 1423, 28 April 2002

Q.) What is the difference between Fard, wajib and Sunnat Mua'kadah? [Aziz]


A.) Fardh is compulsory. A person who denies or rejects a Fardh will become a Kaafir.
wajib is also something necessary, although of a slightly lesser degree than Fardh. The person who denies this will not become a Kaafir, but will be a Faasiq (flagrant sinner).
Sunnat-e-Muakkadah are those actions of Nabi which were done regularly. A person who leaves out such an act will be sinning.

And Allah Ta'ala Knows Best

[Timbit]

Originally Posted by bihari

fard = required and mentioned in the quran
wajib = not mentioned in quran but very important (idk about required, bec we cant be 100% sure with hadith, but ill look into it)

but i know there is a wajib prayer after isha

and i dont believe the beard is wajib

Witr?
Yes, if you're Hanafi, it's wajib (I'm Hanafi and was taught that it's pretty much a part of Isha). For everybody else, it's Sunnah but a highly recommended one.

Why don't you believe the beard is wajib?

[bihari]

Originally Posted by Rida

By Mufti Ebrahim Desai
Posted: 15 Safar 1423, 28 April 2002

Q.) What is the difference between Fard, wajib and Sunnat Mua'kadah? [Aziz]


A.) Fardh is compulsory. A person who denies or rejects a Fardh will become a Kaafir.
wajib is also something necessary, although of a slightly lesser degree than Fardh. The person who denies this will not become a Kaafir, but will be a Faasiq (flagrant sinner).
Sunnat-e-Muakkadah are those actions of Nabi which were done regularly. A person who leaves out such an act will be sinning.

And Allah Ta'ala Knows Best

i disagree

muslims not doing fard things doesnt make them kaafir
bad muslims are still muslims

they would just be 'sinners' (for lack of a better word)

[YOUSUFofSD]

Originally Posted by Rida

By Mufti Ebrahim Desai
Posted: 15 Safar 1423, 28 April 2002

Q.) What is the difference between Fard, wajib and Sunnat Mua'kadah? [Aziz]


A.) Fardh is compulsory. A person who denies or rejects a Fardh will become a Kaafir.
wajib is also something necessary, although of a slightly lesser degree than Fardh. The person who denies this will not become a Kaafir, but will be a Faasiq (flagrant sinner).
Sunnat-e-Muakkadah are those actions of Nabi which were done regularly. A person who leaves out such an act will be sinning.

And Allah Ta'ala Knows Best

Jazakullah khair bro, thanks for posting. Very quick to the point and easy to understand.

[bihari]

Originally Posted by Timbit

Witr?
Yes, if you're Hanafi, it's wajib (I'm Hanafi and was taught that it's pretty much a part of Isha). For everybody else, it's Sunnah but a highly recommended one.

Why don't you believe the beard is wajib?

yea witr

as for the beard, the prophet just said you can do it, he never said to do it; simply allowed it

[YOUSUFofSD]

Originally Posted by bihari

i disagree

muslims not doing fard things doesnt make them kaafir
bad muslims are still muslims

they would just be 'sinners' (for lack of a better word)

The mufti didn't say that bro, read it again.

He said if they deny them or reject them...basically saying that it isn't part of islam.

[bihari]

Originally Posted by YOUSUFofSD

The mufti didn't say that bro, read it again.

He said if they deny them or reject them...basically saying that it isn't part of islam.

perhaps

but people do disagree on things, hence the various schools of thought

however i do disagree regarding the sunnah, where he says you would be sinning for not doing the sunnah....

[Timbit]

Originally Posted by Rida

By Mufti Ebrahim Desai
Posted: 15 Safar 1423, 28 April 2002

Q.) What is the difference between Fard, wajib and Sunnat Mua'kadah? [Aziz]


A.) Fardh is compulsory. A person who denies or rejects a Fardh will become a Kaafir.
wajib is also something necessary, although of a slightly lesser degree than Fardh. The person who denies this will not become a Kaafir, but will be a Faasiq (flagrant sinner).
Sunnat-e-Muakkadah are those actions of Nabi which were done regularly. A person who leaves out such an act will be sinning.

And Allah Ta'ala Knows Best

Nice.

I think I'll have to create another thread about sunnah muakkadah and ghair muakkadah (if you leave your sunnah ghair-muakkadah prayers habitually in the Hanafi madhab, it's sinful).

Another wajib thing:
Praying in congregation for men (at least in the Hanafi madhab)


Damn, you guys have it hard.

[bihari]

Originally Posted by Timbit

Nice.

I think I'll have to create another thread about sunnah muakkadah and ghair muakkadah (if you leave your sunnah ghair-muakkadah prayers habitually in the Hanafi madhab, it's sinful).

Another wajib thing:
Praying in congregation for men (at least in the Hanafi madhab)


Damn, you guys have it hard.

nobody ever said they had to be hanafi, in my opinion people can pick and choose within the madhabs, since they all have rationales for each ruling

[Timbit]

Originally Posted by bihari

nobody ever said they had to be hanafi, in my opinion people can pick and choose within the madhabs, since they all have rationales for each ruling

I dunno about this.

[bihari]

Originally Posted by Timbit

I dunno about this.

why not?

the madhabs arent different religions! its not like christianity where catholic and protastant are almost like diff religions

i mean each fiqh ruling is based on an interpretation of quran or hadith, they all have their reasoning, so i choose whatever convinces me

for ex:
in the hanafi madhab one cannot combine prayer (like combining zuhr and asr), however, there is a hadith in bukhari in which the prophet combined prayer, so it seems to be the case that it is allowed. similarly, the other madhabs allow eating non-zabiha meat, and their views are more convincing to me, so i follow it.

[Timbit]

Originally Posted by bihari

why not?

the madhabs arent different religions! its not like christianity where catholic and protastant are almost like diff religions

i mean each fiqh ruling is based on an interpretation of quran or hadith, they all have their reasoning, so i choose whatever convinces me

for ex:
in the hanafi madhab one cannot combine prayer (like combining zuhr and asr), however, there is a hadith in bukhari in which the prophet combined prayer, so it seems to be the case that it is allowed. similarly, the other madhabs allow eating non-zabiha meat, and their views are more convincing to me, so i follow it.

I think you're just choosing whatever's easiest for you and I don't know if mixing madhabs like that is allowed. The SunniPath answers on this are kind of confusing, so maybe somebody else can explain it to us.

Dunno about combining prayers 'cause I don't do it, but no madhab allows eating non-zabiha meat.

[zakk]

The madhab rulings are interconnected, so if you pick and choose you will wind up with inconsistencies in your practice.