[bihari]

Originally Posted by Timbit

I think you're just choosing whatever's easiest for you and I don't know if mixing madhabs like that is allowed. The SunniPath answers on this are kind of confusing, so maybe somebody else can explain it to us.

Dunno about combining prayers 'cause I don't do it, but no madhab allows eating non-zabiha meat.

yea they do, i know that the shafi'i and the hanbali ones do

and regarding making things easier, why not? whatever i am doing is whatever the prophet did, i dont have to agree with everything the hanafi school says when there is a hadith that clearly allows certain things...same thing for other schools of thought....

fiqh is the interpretation of shariah, which is divine law laid out in quran and sunnah...it is INTERPRETATION, so it is opinionated....

and i stress it again, if one finds a hadith that allows something, why wouldn't you do it?

[bihari]

Originally Posted by zakk

The madhab rulings are interconnected, so if you pick and choose you will wind up with inconsistencies in your practice.

i dont find any in mine

again i look straight to the source, the quran and the authentic sunnah (sahih hadith)

[zakk]

Originally Posted by bihari

i dont find any in mine

again i look straight to the source, the quran and the authentic sunnah (sahih hadith)

are you a scholar? because it's quite dangerous to reject centuries of scholarship in any field in favor of untrained interpretation.

there are many ayahs and hadith which require a lot of knowledge as to context and do not directly lend themselves to outright interpretation. Also, there are cases where sometimes the Prophet (sa) did different things, and there has been much study into the reasons for this, which is how "opinions" are derived.

Scholarly "opinions" are not personal opinions based on what is easy.

Further, if you wish to make your own rulings, the responsible thing would be to get a proper education in the field first, lest you unwittingly misguide yourself or others.

[bihari]

Originally Posted by zakk

are you a scholar? because it's quite dangerous to reject centuries of scholarship in any field in favor of untrained interpretation.

there are many ayahs and hadith which require a lot of knowledge as to context and do not directly lend themselves to outright interpretation. Also, there are cases where sometimes the Prophet (sa) did different things, and there has been much study into the reasons for this, which is how "opinions" are derived.

Scholarly "opinions" are not personal opinions based on what is easy.

Further, if you wish to make your own rulings, the responsible thing would be to get a proper education in the field first, lest you unwittingly misguide yourself or others.

the quran was meant to be interpretad by the believers. throughout it you see the phrase 'oh ye who believe', not 'oh scholars'. i just dont blindly follow anyone. and i am still choosing from different interpretations. i mean think about it, rulings of one time may not apply now. the quran tells the people to 'get your horses ready for battle', but we dont use horses anymore, we use vehicles. so those rulings may not apply. similarly the hadiths regarding riding a camel may not apply since times have changed. i am not blasphemizing, i am just doing my own research. and most of the hadiths btw are quite straightforward. again i take the opinion of numerous scholars or interpretations and see their reasioning/things that back their assertions, and from there i choose what convinces me

[YOUSUFofSD]

Originally Posted by bihari

perhaps

but people do disagree on things, hence the various schools of thought

however i do disagree regarding the sunnah, where he says you would be sinning for not doing the sunnah....

Bro, the sunnah is very important and if the hadith is sahih and the prophet said you must do something, or must not...you must abide by that or you will be sinning.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, inshallah.

[bihari]

Originally Posted by YOUSUFofSD

Bro, the sunnah is very important and if the hadith is sahih and the prophet said you must do something, or must not...you must abide by that or you will be sinning.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, inshallah.

there are many sunnah things in faith which again are not required, simply recommended, like various sunnah prayers

but there are many cultural sunnah, which i do not feel are required

[bihari]

im off to sleep, discuss with u guys later, salam

[YOUSUFofSD]

Originally Posted by bihari

there are many sunnah things in faith which again are not required, simply recommended, like various sunnah prayers

but there are many cultural sunnah, which i do not feel are required

True, I was just making sure, that when the prophet said something must be done, or such, and that it was sahih, it is then a sin to abide by it.

Things that are recommended by the prophet are just that, recommendations like you said inshallah.

Again, Please correct me if I'm wrong, inshallah.

waalikumsalam, have a good night.

[Revert]

Originally Posted by bihari

yea they do, i know that the shafi'i and the hanbali ones do

and regarding making things easier, why not? whatever i am doing is whatever the prophet did, i dont have to agree with everything the hanafi school says when there is a hadith that clearly allows certain things...same thing for other schools of thought....

fiqh is the interpretation of shariah, which is divine law laid out in quran and sunnah...it is INTERPRETATION, so it is opinionated....

and i stress it again, if one finds a hadith that allows something, why wouldn't you do it?

We had a whole thread on Non Zabiha and according to the rulings there is no view in each of the Madhabs that state non Zabiha meat it ok to eat. The only time you can eat it is in extreme circumstances (ie about to die)

[bihari]

Originally Posted by Revert

We had a whole thread on Non Zabiha and according to the rulings there is no view in each of the Madhabs that state non Zabiha meat it ok to eat. The only time you can eat it is in extreme circumstances (ie about to die)

idk, ill look into it, but i know all the arabs at my school eat it with no problem

[ChotooMotoo]

Originally Posted by bihari

idk, ill look into it, but i know all the arabs at my school eat it with no problem

Well, there is consensus that non-zabihaha is not allowed, however the different schools/scholars have different definitions of what constitutes zabihah. Then there are those people who don't care, and don't even look it up.

[Revert]

Originally Posted by bihari

idk, ill look into it, but i know all the arabs at my school eat it with no problem

When were Arabs the guardians of sacred knowledge? Theres a weak view by Al Qaradawi that states eating Non zabiha is okay, but thats not a view shared by 99% of the Scholars.

[ChotooMotoo]

Originally Posted by Revert

When were Arabs the guardians of sacred knowledge? Theres a weak view by Al Qaradawi that states eating Non zabiha is okay, but thats not a view shared by 99% of the Scholars.

From what I've seen, most people who eat non-muslim slaughtered food haven't bothered to study the issue. They just go "it's not pork, so its okay" and eat it.

[Variable]

Can there be some kind of rule - no zabiha talk in this thread? Because that's all it's gonna be, and I'm actually interested in this stuff.

[ChotooMotoo]

Originally Posted by Variable

Can there be some kind of rule - no zabiha talk in this thread? Because that's all it's gonna be, and I'm actually interested in this stuff.

I think that's a fair rule. the zabihah debate has nothing to do with wajib things anyway.