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Not the Japanese so much -- they also have had ritual purity issues with pork and it's never really become a central part of their cuisine. The Chinese, on the other hand, will eat anything.
The Chinese yes, but I wasn't even thinking about them... I was thinking of a group in Costa Rica that are amongst the longest living in the world. Lean cuts of pork made up part of their diet.
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The Chinese yes, but I wasn't even thinking about them... I was thinking of a group in Costa Rica that are amongst the longest living in the world. Lean cuts of pork made up part of their diet.
aren't you just a tad bit obsessed with pork?

kinda looks like your focus
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aren't you just a tad bit obsessed with pork?

kinda looks like your focus
Two posts constitutes me being obsessed with it?
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Haram - things which if you do you get sins on your account, but if you do not do them you get rewarded for it

Makruh - things which if you do you do not get sins on your account, but if you do not do them you get rewarded for it

In Hanafi fiqh, there is also a type of makruh for which if you do them you do get sins.
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In the other thread, Variable asked about the difference between makruh and haram. This is what I posted in response to that:

They're essentially classifications given by Islamic scholars regarding things we should refrain from.
The similiarity between makruh and haram is that they are both classification of things that we have been commanded to stay away from.
The difference between makruh tahrimi (the worst category of makruh) and haram is that of the proofs used (or in Arabic, daleel). The proofs, or daleel, used which make something haram are clear proofs, whereas the proofs used which make something makruh are uncertain proofs.

What do we mean by clear and uncertain? Well, in the case of haram, it means a thing which has been commanded to stay away from and it's been proven by texts on which there is a decisive and established meaning. In the case of makruh, it means a thing has been commanded to stay away from, and the proof used to support this, the text, is open to interpretation. Hence, almost to err on the side of caution, the thing is not declared haram, but makruh tahrimi. It's a case of degrees really.

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Timbit this is from the fatwa Rida posted (Hanafi Fiqh)

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In light of the above, all sea-animals are Haram except for fish. It will be permitted to eat a fish even without slaughtering it according to the rules of Shariah. However, a fish that dies naturally without an external cause and begins to float on the surface of the water (Samak al-Tafi) is also considered Haram.
Shrimp aren't fish, they're crustaceans. I was always under the impression that it was the Hanafi school that prohibited Shrimps.
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i'm hanafi and i love shrimp, crab meat, lobsters...ahhhhhh ????
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assalamu alaykum

become shafi?
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become shafi?
reminds me of a lecture i heard. since in the shafi madhhab, touching the opposite gender breaks your wudu, its pretty impossible during tawaf to keep your wudu. so when they go to hajj they make the intention to be hanafi, then when they come out theyre shafi again.
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assalamu alaykum

Perhaps because my husband I went on umrah during the quiet season, we didn't get touched by anyone, but we did take the hanafi opinion on the breaking of wudu with the opposite gender as we held hands so we didn't get separated, as we've heard two opinion son whether the shafi ruling includes the husband and wife.
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So it's not okay to take a ruling from one madhab but it's okay to switch completely 'cause of one issue?

And I swear I just read that shrimp are okay if you're Hanafi, but nothing else.

I'm staring to realize Islamica is the worst place to come for this kind of stuff.
And SunniPath is kind of confusing.

I guess I'll just do what Bihari does...just do what my parents and other people I know do.


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So it's not okay to take a ruling from one madhab but it's okay to switch completely 'cause of one issue?

And I swear I just read that shrimp are okay if you're Hanafi, but nothing else.

I'm staring to realize Islamica is the worst place to come for this kind of stuff.
And SunniPath is kind of confusing.

I guess I'll just do what Bihari does...just do what my parents and other people I know do.



As far as I'm aware you can't flit between madhaabs, however in extreme circumstnaces you can take rulings from others (the Hajj situation would be one of them).

Some Hanafis might give the opinon that its fine to eat Shrimp. It might be a minority opinion.

The best thing to do if you are confused is take the majority opinon not follow your nafs.
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I guess I'll just do what Bihari does...just do what my parents and other people I know do.

we all eat it because we see that the quran says that the 'game of the sea is lawful to you'

how much clearer can it get....its not like we do it just because others do it....its clear in our eyes
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So it's not okay to take a ruling from one madhab but it's okay to switch completely 'cause of one issue?
i dont see why not, as long as there is a hadith/quranic ayat to back it up
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