[bihari]

Originally Posted by Khairan

Depends -- I know that at least some shia have "seafood laws" and do not interpret the Qur'anic verses stating that creatures of the water are lawful as meaning ALL water creatures without exception. In general, muslims who observe seafood laws do not eat shellfish, may not eat fish that have no scales, and say that a fish has to be caught alive by a muslim or at least a person of the book in order for it to be halaal.

Incidentally, this is also the reasoning (to my knowledge) behind why some people consider shrimp to be makruh -- it dies very quickly after being caught if removed from water and you generally don't know if the fisherman was a muslim.

i think the quran mentions catching fish that are allready dead saying that even those may be okay since if you have for example a huge net of fish you dont know if you killed them or if they allready died

just keep it simple - food of the sea is allowed - thats how i go about it

[sally]

POPCORN SHRIMP FO LYFE

[Variable]

Originally Posted by bihari

so we are all going to stop eating catfish, which are also bottom feeders?

I dunno, people get sick all the time eating sea food. Why say pork is haram when certain filter fish could be more dangerous to eat? Then again, I don't pretend to know why pork is haram, it could be for some spiritual reason, and nothing to do with health.

[Khairan]

Originally Posted by bihari

i think the quran mentions catching fish that are allready dead saying that even those may be okay since if you have for example a huge net of fish you dont know if you killed them or if they allready died

I don't know of any such ayat -- can you cite it for me? Thanks.

Originally Posted by bihari

just keep it simple - food of the sea is allowed - thats how i go about it

This is in fact what the vast majority of muslims do.

[Timbit]

I do that too, but I just read on Sunnipath that if you're Hanafi, you can eat fish (sharks and whales included) and shrimp and nothing else.

[bihari]

Originally Posted by Variable

I dunno, people get sick all the time eating sea food. Why say pork is haram when certain filter fish could be more dangerous to eat? Then again, I don't pretend to know why pork is haram, it could be for some spiritual reason, and nothing to do with health.

pork is disgusting, they eat their own filth and waddle around in it all day......not to mention how bad it is for you

but fish man, fish is so good for you, they say eating fish just once a month decreases risks of heart disease. look at the oldest people in the world/countries with the highest life expectency: places like japan and china: they eat a lot of seafood vs red meat

[bihari]

Originally Posted by Khairan

I don't know of any such ayat -- can you cite it for me? Thanks.
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yea ill look into it, maybe it was the commentary

[bihari]

Originally Posted by Timbit

I do that too, but I just read on Sunnipath that if you're Hanafi, you can eat fish (sharks and whales included) and shrimp and nothing else.

we eat it all; shrimp, clam, lobster, crab.....all from the sea = all good to eat

[Variable]

Originally Posted by bihari

pork is disgusting, they eat their own filth and waddle around in it all day......not to mention how bad it is for you

Meh, I heard that given the option, they won't eat where they defecate, and anyway, you do in fact cook the meat. Many fish eat 'filth' found in the ocean as well, spending all day sucking on it.

but fish man, fish is so good for you, they say eating fish just once a month decreases risks of heart disease. look at the oldest people in the world/countries with the highest life expectency: places like japan and china: they eat a lot of seafood vs red meat

They also eat a lot of pork.

[Rida]

The Fiqh of Halal and Haram Animals - Hanafi rulings

[Khairan]

Originally Posted by Variable

They also eat a lot of pork.

Not the Japanese so much -- they also have had ritual purity issues with pork and it's never really become a central part of their cuisine. The Chinese, on the other hand, will eat anything.

[bihari]

Originally Posted by Variable

Meh, I heard that given the option, they won't eat where they defecate, and anyway, you do in fact cook the meat. Many fish eat 'filth' found in the ocean as well, spending all day sucking on it.



They also eat a lot of pork.

true, but still, there are many articles i have read about the unhealthyness of pork, ill see what i can dig up (thats the issue with books lol, you cant copy and paste once you find it haha)

[bihari]

Originally Posted by Khairan

Not the Japanese so much -- they also have had ritual purity issues with pork and it's never really become a central part of their cuisine. The Chinese, on the other hand, will eat anything.

yea i heard japanese people are really clean....like i heard about some woman who got in vitro fertilization, and her immune system wouldnt take the embryo bec it was too 'dirty' for her body, they had to suppress the immune system to let it in

[Timbit]

Originally Posted by bihari

we eat it all; shrimp, clam, lobster, crab.....all from the sea = all good to eat

Who's we?

[bihari]

Originally Posted by Timbit

Who's we?

my family and many people i know