Would Space Aliens Need to be Muslims?

[Jamroll]

Blue_Phoenix said

Besides, doesn't the Quran say shaytan was a fallen angel?

No, bro, that's what the Bible and Christianity say. There is no such thing as a fallen angel. Angels as beings are Allah's faithful servants. They don't have freewill, like men and jinn do.

[AliFazel]

Shaitan - Iblis is jinn --- he was not born on this earth

He decended on the earth at about the same time as H Adam (A) and H Hawa (A)

Iblis is extraterrestrial - so was Adam and Hawa

All the jinns that exist side by side with us must be the off-spring of Shaitans people who decended on earth with him.

You know something - I have just realized that we are the off-spring of extraterrestrials.

[amani01]

that depens if there a space aliene or not,and if there were i am sure allah would have told us about it....

[Blue_Phoenix]

Jamroll said

No, bro, that's what the Bible and Christianity say. There is no such thing as a fallen angel. Angels as beings are Allah's faithful servants. They don't have freewill, like men and jinn do.

I seem to remember reading a verse in a translation that specifically called him a fallen angel. Of course, it WAS a translation....

FYI, the idea isn't really from Christianity either. They just adopted it. Blame Paradise Lost for the whole idea.

[SaidAbdullahofDarfur]

Blue_Phoenix said

I seem to remember reading a verse in a translation that specifically called him a fallen angel. Of course, it WAS a translation....

FYI, the idea isn't really from Christianity either. They just adopted it. Blame Paradise Lost for the whole idea.

True, true, its not a really Christian ideal, some guy wrote an epic poem about the Insurgency of the Devil, after of course his failed revolution.

But, In Islam, angels have no free will.The Idea of a fallen angel is an absurdity.

[Blue_Phoenix]

SaidAbdullahofDarfur said

But, In Islam, angels have no free will.The Idea of a fallen angel is an absurdity.

Then I was grossly misinformed about angels at my mosque.

[Jamroll]

Blue_Phoenix said

FYI, the idea isn't really from Christianity either. They just adopted it. Blame Paradise Lost for the whole idea.

Lol. I didn't know that.

As for the fallen angel thing... yeah I think you must be have been misinformed. The basic thing we need to know revolves around freewill.

Man and Jinn = freewill
Angels = no freewill

So by definition, Satan would not have been able to rebel if he was an angel. Ergo, he was/is a jinn.

[SaidAbdullahofDarfur]

Paradise lost was awesome though...
It makes a good read...

it just sucks that people revise their religion based on literary works....

[Jack_Sparrow]

Salika said

Don't think you it's a waste of time to be discussing these hypotheticals though?

When you meet an alien, let me know...

All life on Earth is made up of the principal elements, carbon, hydrogen, oxygen, nitrogen, and phosphorus; it also requires water as the solvent in which biochemical reactions take place. We have yet to discover most of the earth as of yet.


Considering that into account:

The universe is estimated to be at least 93 billion light years across. For comparison, the diameter of a typical galaxy is only 30,000 light-years. As an example, our Milky Way galaxy is roughly 100,000 light years in diameter and our nearest sister galaxy, the Andromeda Galaxy, is located roughly 2.5 million light years away.

Do you REALLY think that assuming other life exists besides humans is baloney? What are you nuts? Religious? Both?

[AliFazel]

Would this answer your question?

Allah created the whole wide space.

Comparing this universe to the whole heaven ----This earth is just a grain of sand compared to the collective oceans of this earth.

Just to create life on earth He created the whole heaven - does this make sense?


In Qur’an we read.

Praise be to Allah, the Cherisher and Sustainer of the worlds;
Al-Fatiha (The Opening)---- 1:2

[Raistlin]

*Ahem*

Jinns are not aliens. Man is not alien. Both man and jinn are native to the planet earth. Was the first man and the first jinn on earth , alien? Technically you could say that they were, being that they did not originate on earth, but being that several millions of bloodlines have erupted since them, we are no longer alien, and this is the planet given to us by Allah. Both man and jinn fit this criteria.

Secondly, there is no such things as space aliens. Is there unintelligent life that exists on other planets? Perhaps... but no true believer in Islam could believe that there are aliens. Prophet Muhammad spread the word of Islam, and he was not in 50 billion planets at once. Furthermore, the Quran bears no mention of any beings other than angels jinn and humans. So to believe the sci-fi nonsense that aliens exist in other galaxies, is to be an unbeleiver in the word of Allah.

Why is there such an expansive galaxy if there is no other intelligent life? Nobody knows the reasoning of Allah. Perhaps the galaxy is needed to maintain some unseen balance for us here on earth. Perhaps outer space was never a realm we were meant to observe, and we delved into that much like we have delved into many forbidden things. Simply because a concept exists doesn't mean we should throw stock into it.

Calm down fellow muslims and know that Allah knows what is best for us. All that we shall ever know is only what he has made plain to us.

[Jetmir]

as Umar ibn al-Khattab would say “Do not engage us with things that have not happened, keep people busy with the truth instead.”

[zzze]

assalamu alaykum

Jamroll said

Well, it depends. What kind of lifeform is it? For example, whenever I think of aliens vis-a-vis the Qur'an, the jinn seem to fit the bill: can travel vast distances almost instantaneously, are not bound by the same physical constraints humans are, visit the furthermost corners of the universe, and so on. If they're jinn life-form, then yes, they would have to be Muslim.

thanks for that vivid description, I'M GOING TO HAVE NIGHTMARES!

Raistlin said

*Ahem*

Jinns are not aliens. Man is not alien. Both man and jinn are native to the planet earth. Was the first man and the first jinn on earth , alien? Technically you could say that they were, being that they did not originate on earth, but being that several millions of bloodlines have erupted since them, we are no longer alien, and this is the planet given to us by Allah. Both man and jinn fit this criteria.

Secondly, there is no such things as space aliens. Is there unintelligent life that exists on other planets? Perhaps... but no true believer in Islam could believe that there are aliens Prophet Muhammad spread the word of Islam, and he was not in 50 billion planets at once. Furthermore, the Quran bears no mention of any beings other than angels jinn and humans. So to believe the sci-fi nonsense that aliens exist in other galaxies, is to be an unbeleiver in the word of Allah.

Why is there such an expansive galaxy if there is no other intelligent life? Nobody knows the reasoning of Allah. Perhaps the galaxy is needed to maintain some unseen balance for us here on earth. Perhaps outer space was never a realm we were meant to observe, and we delved into that much like we have delved into many forbidden things. Simply because a concept exists doesn't mean we should throw stock into it.

Calm down fellow muslims and know that Allah knows what is best for us. All that we shall ever know is only what he has made plain to us.

so now you dictate who is an unbeliever because YOU believe there are no aliens? Have you found a new criteria of faith apart from belief in the Angels, the books, judgement day etc?
Allah swt has made mention of the unseen many a time, and He is the Lord of the worlds. Just because Allah swt hasn't mentioned them means they can't exist? And why can an alien not be unintelligent life? Because of the movies? Good call.

[ChotooMotoo]

Jack_Sparrow said

All life on Earth is made up of the principal elements, carbon, hydrogen, oxygen, nitrogen, and phosphorus; it also requires water as the solvent in which biochemical reactions take place. We have yet to discover most of the earth as of yet.


Considering that into account:

The universe is estimated to be at least 93 billion light years across. For comparison, the diameter of a typical galaxy is only 30,000 light-years. As an example, our Milky Way galaxy is roughly 100,000 light years in diameter and our nearest sister galaxy, the Andromeda Galaxy, is located roughly 2.5 million light years away.

Do you REALLY think that assuming other life exists besides humans is baloney? What are you nuts? Religious? Both?

You forgot to mention that our galaxy has at least several billion stars, which is typical, and that there are billions of galaxies in the universe. Infinity is difficult to imagine, but you can start thinking about infinity by imagining how many stars are in the universe, and then go the other direction by realizing that each star is made of atoms, and thinking of how many atoms are in the universe. You can really get your head twisted around by realizing that the universe is mostly empty, and that atoms themselves are mostly empty space. That way you get infinity of the very large, and very small, all at once!

That's all true... but chances are that any other technologically advanced alien life is so far away that we will never meet them.

[Hanbali]

Raistlin said

*Ahem*

Jinns are not aliens. Man is not alien. Both man and jinn are native to the planet earth. Was the first man and the first jinn on earth , alien? Technically you could say that they were, being that they did not originate on earth, but being that several millions of bloodlines have erupted since them, we are no longer alien, and this is the planet given to us by Allah. Both man and jinn fit this criteria.

Secondly, there is no such things as space aliens. Is there unintelligent life that exists on other planets? Perhaps... but no true believer in Islam could believe that there are aliens. Prophet Muhammad spread the word of Islam, and he was not in 50 billion planets at once. Furthermore, the Quran bears no mention of any beings other than angels jinn and humans. So to believe the sci-fi nonsense that aliens exist in other galaxies, is to be an unbeleiver in the word of Allah.

Why is there such an expansive galaxy if there is no other intelligent life? Nobody knows the reasoning of Allah. Perhaps the galaxy is needed to maintain some unseen balance for us here on earth. Perhaps outer space was never a realm we were meant to observe, and we delved into that much like we have delved into many forbidden things. Simply because a concept exists doesn't mean we should throw stock into it.

Calm down fellow muslims and know that Allah knows what is best for us. All that we shall ever know is only what he has made plain to us.

Welcome back to Islamica, dear brother. You were missed.