[Hanbali]

Originally Posted by AliFazel

ALSO we need to guard against the harm that comes from within Islam – from those who pose as Muslims but are in reality the agents of the west.

Yep, the Mushrikeen.

Haha, you know I'm enjoying this. I just have to say like a couple words to each of your huge posts, and that feeds you lol.

[AliFazel]

Originally Posted by Hanbali

Yep, the Mushrikeen.

Haha, you know I'm enjoying this. I just have to say like a couple words to each of your huge posts, and that feeds you lol.

You forgot something

You are not the only one reading these posts. Other members benefit from reading the interesting debates/discussions

This Islamica helps the education process.

And as you know , logics and reasoning appeals to the readers.

Even though I end up spending more time writing these replies, its the people who benefit and I earn more thawab

So my dear brother, you can earn less thawab by saying just two word sentences.

--- I win - Ha Ha --- .

[Hanbali]

Originally Posted by AliFazel

You forgot something

You are not the only one reading these posts. Other members benefit from reading the interesting debates/discussions

This Islamica helps the education process.

And as you know , logics and reasoning appeals to the readers.

Even though I end up spending more time writing these replies, its the people who benefit and I earn more thawab

So my dear brother, you can earn less thawab by saying just two word sentences.

--- I win - Ha Ha --- .

No, unfortunately, people don't want to be mushriks.

[AliFazel]

Originally Posted by Hanbali

No, unfortunately, people don't want to be mushriks.

Of course they do not want to be Mushrik or Munafiq- They do not want to say "we love prophet (saw)" with their mouths, while their actions show enmity to prophet (saw). They don’t want to voice “TAWHEED” with their statements while, their action say, “There is no God but USA” --- Like most Saudi’s do.

Every person is aware of what is happening there.

And I hope you are not claiming that you have knowledge of what is in their hearts. LOL

Also most people would love unity of Muslimeen - because they know the evil facing us.

Do you know how many women in our Muslim community (SHIA/SUNNI) have been widowed since 1980's --- and have no means of income --- how many of these are caring for their elderly - struggling to scrape food from here and there. How many have been orphaned and who do not have any one to comfort them --- what future do these have?

Any Muslim with heart will forget any division and unite to help alleviate these difficulties first.


ONLY THOSE ATTACHEDWITH SAUDI ORIANTED RELIGION BELIEVE IN SUCIDE BOMBING – AND KILLING THE INNOCENT, AND FELLOW MUSLIMS - DO THEY KNOW HOW MANY WOMEN ARE WIDOWED DAILY – AND HOW MANY CHILDREN ORPHANED?

Say, if you were a 6 year old eating you meal one day with your parents and the next day you are orphaned, with no food coming. You are threatened by poverty and homelessness. And so young that you cannot fend for yourself. HOW WOULD YOU FEEL?

Allah curse those who engage in suicide bombing, and spread miseries WHILE THEY think they go to paradise ---Allah curse them with eternal hell, who seek paradise while they make this earthly life HELL for the widows and orphans.

One has to be Human before he becomes a Muslim – Inhumanity is the way of Kufar. If you are human, you should say “Ameen”, to the above

[MuslimZ]

Isn't the unity just soo heartwarming.

You can taste the rainbow.

Except skittles are haram.

[Hanbali]

Originally Posted by AliFazel

Of course they do not want to be Mushrik or Munafiq- They do not want to say "we love prophet (saw)" with their mouths, while their actions show enmity to prophet (saw). They don’t want to voice “TAWHEED” with their statements while, their action say, “There is no God but USA” --- Like most Saudi’s do.

Every person is aware of what is happening there.

And I hope you are not claiming that you have knowledge of what is in their hearts. LOL

Also most people would love unity of Muslimeen - because they know the evil facing us.

Do you know how many women in our Muslim community (SHIA/SUNNI) have been widowed since 1980's --- and have no means of income --- how many of these are caring for their elderly - struggling to scrape food from here and there. How many have been orphaned and who do not have any one to comfort them --- what future do these have?

Any Muslim with heart will forget any division and unite to help alleviate these difficulties first.


ONLY THOSE ATTACHEDWITH SAUDI ORIANTED RELIGION BELIEVE IN SUCIDE BOMBING – AND KILLING THE INNOCENT, AND FELLOW MUSLIMS - DO THEY KNOW HOW MANY WOMEN ARE WIDOWED DAILY – AND HOW MANY CHILDREN ORPHANED?

Say, if you were a 6 year old eating you meal one day with your parents and the next day you are orphaned, with no food coming. You are threatened by poverty and homelessness. And so young that you cannot fend for yourself. HOW WOULD YOU FEEL?

Allah curse those who engage in suicide bombing, and spread miseries WHILE THEY think they go to paradise ---Allah curse them with eternal hell, who seek paradise while they make this earthly life HELL for the widows and orphans.

One has to be Human before he becomes a Muslim – Inhumanity is the way of Kufar. If you are human, you should say “Ameen”, to the above

Get your facts straight. The Saudi Ulema have always said that suicide bombing is haram. They have been the ones saying that since the very beginning.

Anyways, once again, your dishonest cries for unity fall on deaf ears. You claim to call towards unity but your posts (such as this one) are full of hatred for Saudis, Hanbalis, Salafis, "Wahhabis", etc.

So why do you have any issue with us calling towards Sunni unity against Shias? If what you are calling towards is unity against Hanbalis? Is the matter not the same?

[AliFazel]

Originally Posted by Hanbali

Get your facts straight. The Saudi Ulema have always said that suicide bombing is haram. They have been the ones saying that since the very beginning.

Anyways, once again, your dishonest cries for unity fall on deaf ears. You claim to call towards unity but your posts (such as this one) are full of hatred for Saudis, Hanbalis, Salafis, "Wahhabis", etc.

So why do you have any issue with us calling towards Sunni unity against Shias? If what you are calling towards is unity against Hanbalis? Is the matter not the same?

Dishonest ?? You are really very desperate

I don’t believe in 9-11 --- but it was blamed on the Saudi affiliated.
also many suicide bombers penetrating into Iraq, come from Saudi Arabia.
All the people arrested for terrorism - show affiliation to Saudi oriented Islam.

I do not call for disunity against any people -- I call for STOP to stupidity

Like, destroying the Islamic sites of historical importance.
AND the misconception of the status of Prophet (saw)
And the crazy suicide bombing.

How many times do I have to repeat this?

[Hanbali]

Originally Posted by AliFazel

Dishonest ?? You are really very desperate

I don’t believe in 9-11 --- but it was blamed on the Saudi affiliated.

Get your story straight! In some posts you are accusing the Saudis of being best friends with USA and now you are saying that the Saudis are the ones who launched the worst attack against them ever?

Which is it !?

also many suicide bombers penetrating into Iraq, come from Saudi.

And the Kibar Ulema of Saudia forbade it. See what Shaykh Salih al-Fawzan said recently.

By the way, the Kibar Ulema are like your Maraje of Iran.

I do not call for dis-unity against any people -- I call for STOP to stupidity

I thought you said suicide was haram? But now you want to stop your life?

Like, destroying the Islamic sites of historical importance.
AND the misconception of the status of Prophet (saw)

Translation: you want to do shirk.

How many times do I have to repeat this?

As many as you want.

[AliFazel]

Originally Posted by Hanbali

Get your story straight! In some posts you are accusing the Saudis of being best friends with USA and now you are saying that the Saudis are the ones who launched the worst attack against them ever?

Which is it !?

And the Kibar Ulema of Saudia forbade it. See what Shaykh Salih al-Fawzan said recently.

By the way, the Kibar Ulema are like your Maraje of Iran.

I thought you said suicide was haram? But now you want to stop your life?

Translation: you want to do shirk.

As many as you want.

What language do you speak -- You seem to understand everything opposite to what I say. ---- and you appear completely out of sync .

You seem confused --- Your post does not make any sense at all


Please don't waste the space in this forum and time of other people ---I'd love it if you had something more interesting to say.

[TrentReznor858]

Originally Posted by AliFazel

- I do not support the view that Prophet was an ordinary Human being like you and me. He is afzal-ul-maklukaat, sayied-ul-ambiah, habib-ul-lah. And we are not equal to even a grain of mud on his feet.
t.

So I suppose he as lying when he said he was a normal human being like everyone else?

[AliFazel]

Originally Posted by TrentReznor858

So I suppose he as lying when he said he was a normal human being like everyone else?

Brother look at post no. 127 and 128

Look what I write and what he understands.

other people read these post as well and it gets boring

By all means do counter what I say
but all communication should logical and in synchronization

EXAMPLE

What I see is - I say, 'curse be upon the suicide bombers who make life Hell for others'

and the reply comes - 'So you condone suicide bombers'

HOW IS THAT ACCEPTABLE - Every time you says something and other party repeats the issue 180 degrees in reverse.

I am sure you would be frustrated too - because there is no progress - its a waste of time.
I'd appreciate it if he said, "despite what you say, I do not OR cannot accept your views".


Referring to the two post 127 and 128

I said - I don’t believe in 9-11 --- but it was blamed on the Saudi affiliated

Reply I get: -

Get your story straight! In some posts you are accusing the Saudis of being best friends with USA and now you are saying that the Saudis are the ones who launched the worst attack against them ever?

9-11 was a put up job by the western corrupt agents --- but saudi were falsely blamed -- because US wanted an excuse to invade Afghanistan.


Suicide bombers in Iraq, are responsible for the death of many innocent, and it has made many women widow with no one to fend for them – It has left many children orphaned and homeless. - Mostly these bombers come from Saudi Arabia OR they are affiliated to Saudi oriented Islam.

Now how do you justify the reply I got?


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Also

Saudi government - generally supporting the ideology of Abdullah ibn Wahab (destroying the historic (Islamic) sites and harsh behavior against other Muslims) and their love for worldly power and for stealing the Muslim wealth have taken USA as their masters.

While the Saudi oriented Islam on the ideology of Abdullah ibn Wahab - administers terrorist like ideas - i.e. every thing is biddah to them -- they support destruction of historic sites of importance to Islam - they come out like mad mullah's condemning others who say, "LA-ILA HA ILLAL LAH - MUHAMMAD UR RASOOL UL LAH" as Kafir --- and call for death and destruction of these people - [If you want, I can post their fatwas here] - And we see those who are affiliated to them in PAK, Afghanistan, engage in suicide bombing.

[Bluestar]

chocolate shows muslim unity. Everyone loves chocolate.

[AliFazel]

Originally Posted by Bluestar

chocolate shows muslim unity. Everyone loves chocolate.

Com'on Bluestar, you are suposed to attack me --- not support me

Can't have you breaking with the tradition here in Islamica

You should learn something from Br. Hambali

[ChotooMotoo]

Originally Posted by Bluestar

chocolate shows muslim unity. Everyone loves chocolate.

Chocolate was invented by kaafir american peoples to subjugate and opress the Muslims. Chocolate is an intoxicant that lifts ones mood and makes you happy and conciliatory. It's HARAM, I say, HARAM!!! We must declare Jihad on Chocolate, and purify the Ummah of all who enjoy those little pieces of brown evil.