[ibnishaq]

salaam

i am researching scholars so i can find one to follow or listen to their teachings. islam is very very diverse(much more then i thought astagfirullah) and i need to set my eyes on one sheikh at a time.

so i heard about tahir al qadri. he seems to be a knowledgeable man. and what brought my attention was a miracle that supposedly happened. he celebrates malid, and has a big conference w/ hundreds of thousands of people every time. last year he had some say 500,000 people.

well, last year at his speech, he was speaking about the name of the prophet. and he said that he wish he had a marker board so he could spell it. then, i guess what happened was Muhammad's name appeared in the sky!

YouTube - The Word MUHAMMAD in the sky -Milad un Nabi - caught on video

in front of 500,000 people. so it seems to be a miracle. of course i have not investigated any critical views yet because it has not been widely published in english so i guess if there are any critical views they are in urdu.

so i thought well this miracle happened so i should follow this scholar. so i got to speaking to some brothers and sisters, and they were shocked. they were like no not him, he claims to be sheikh ul islam, to have spoken to angel gabriel, and he is close to the shia's and likes music and dancing etc.

so what are your thoughts on this scholar?(who i thought was a really cool scholar)
maybe the milad miracle is not a miracle but a hoax? anyone know any sites refuting it?

[NeoMuslim]

Thats stupid. Muslims are stupid. Its just a bunch of clouds. I cant believe how Muslims want to see stuff like this so bad.

Oh boy I saw the word Allah in my fruit loops, it must mean something.
Oh look at that tree making ruku towards the Kaba

Its not Coca-Cola, its La Makkah La Muhammad! Its a conspiracy

[ibnishaq]

Originally Posted by NeoMuslim

Thats stupid. Muslims are stupid. Its just a bunch of clouds. I cant believe how Muslims want to see stuff like this so bad.

Oh boy I saw the word Allah in my fruit loops, it must mean something.
Oh look at that tree making ruku towards the Kaba

Its not Coca-Cola, its La Makkah La Muhammad! Its a conspiracy

lol generally i would agree, but it happened right when he was speaking about his(saws) name!

[Abdul_Karim]

Originally Posted by NeoMuslim

Thats stupid. Muslims are stupid. Its just a bunch of clouds. I cant believe how Muslims want to see stuff like this so bad.

Oh boy I saw the word Allah in my fruit loops, it must mean something.
Oh look at that tree making ruku towards the Kaba

Its not Coca-Cola, its La Makkah La Muhammad! Its a conspiracy

I know what you mean. I believe that alot of Muslims are greatly devaluing the idea of miracles by hyping up this stupid crap. Let's do a comparison between actual miracles and the other stuff.

Miracle: Rasulullah (salallahu alayhi wa sallam) split the moon.

Not a miracle: Lion says Allah (even though it really just sounds like a Lion roaring normally).

Miracle: Nabi Isa (alayhis salaam) brought a dead man back to life.

Not a miracle: A bunch of pictures of food that have patterns in them that look vaguely like the name of Allah (azza wa jal).

Miracle: Nabi Musa (alayhis salaam) threw down a stick and it turned into a snake.

Not a miracle: Some soccer player has a seizure on the field (and lives) and people claim it's the angel of death "ripping his soul from his body". I seem to remember seeing some guy on a forum calling people kaafirs for not believing that the guy had died.

[ibnishaq]

lol or the allah fish.. the fish with the name of allah on one side and muhammad on the other! then, the man comes to the store and he says "i had a dream about allah's name on a big whale" LOL

yeah, i know what you mean. most of these are silly or definetely hoaxes. and they dont compare to the miracles the prophets(peace be upon them all) did. like staying i a fish for 3 days, splitting the moon, raising the dead, parting the sea.

but i just thought this was interesting because it happened right when the scholar said he wish he could write the name muhammad and he was speaking about his(saws) name.

[sixpakistan]

It definitely wasn't a hoax. As for whether it was a mere coincidence or not, I think it was a real karamat. Allahu alim

[AluQeema]

MashAllah. That's nice, looks beautiful in the sky as well.