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Western-Educated Muslim Scholars VS. Eastern-Educated Muslim Scholars
Do you think it is true that the Muslim scholars that are educated in the West and educated in Islamic studies (ie. Yusuf Hamza, Sh. Jackson, Webb, Philips, Reza Aslan, etc.) vs. the Eastern based scholars like (Ayotallah, Zakir Naik, Yusuff AlQarammi, El-Baz etc.) ?
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Re: Western-Educated Muslim Scholars VS. Eastern-Educated Muslim Scholars
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Do you think it is true that the Muslim scholars that are educated in the West and educated in Islamic studies (ie. Yusuf Hamza, Sh. Jackson, Webb, Philips, Reza Aslan, etc.) vs. the Eastern based scholars like (Ayotallah, Zakir Naik, Yusuff AlQarammi, El-Baz etc.) ?
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err.. what?
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02-21-2008, 02:27 PM
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Re: Western-Educated Muslim Scholars VS. Eastern-Educated Muslim Scholars
is there supposed to be a question in there somewhere? Or are you asking if it's true that someone has scheduled a cage match between these two teams?
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Re: Western-Educated Muslim Scholars VS. Eastern-Educated Muslim Scholars
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Do you think it is true that the Muslim scholars that are educated in the West and educated in Islamic studies (ie. Yusuf Hamza, Sh. Jackson, Webb, Philips, Reza Aslan, etc.) vs. the Eastern based scholars like (Ayotallah, Zakir Naik, Yusuff AlQarammi, El-Baz etc.) ?
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That was not a sentence. There was no predicate, just a really long subject.
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Re: Western-Educated Muslim Scholars VS. Eastern-Educated Muslim Scholars
That amkes no sense Sh Hamza, Suhaib Webb as far as I know educated in the East as well as West..in fact Suhaib Webbis still in Cairo studying.
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Re: Western-Educated Muslim Scholars VS. Eastern-Educated Muslim Scholars
I think he meant to include the word 'better' in there somewhere...
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Re: Western-Educated Muslim Scholars VS. Eastern-Educated Muslim Scholars
How're you gonna be a scholar if you haven't studied in the East?
Well, I guess it's changing now... our next generation of scholars will probably all be Zaytuna graduates. And someday you won't have to leave North America to study classical Arabic and the Islamic sciences.

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Re: Western-Educated Muslim Scholars VS. Eastern-Educated Muslim Scholars
zaytuna??
may allah guide all of us..
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True!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I think he meant to include the word 'better' in there somewhere...
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Hm, or "worse"
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Do you think it is true that the Muslim scholars that are educated in the West and educated in Islamic studies (ie. Yusuf Hamza, Sh. Jackson, Webb, Philips, Reza Aslan, etc.) vs. the Eastern based scholars like (Ayotallah, Zakir Naik, Yusuff AlQarammi, El-Baz etc.) ?
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No western scholar has reached the status that Mufti Taqi Usmani, Shaykh Abdullah Bin Bayyah, Dr. Ramadhan al-Buti, Shaykh Zuhayli, or Shaykh Bin Baz have reached.
With all due respect to Shaykh Hamza Yusuf, Imam Zaid, et al, they aren't even on the same level.
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zaytuna??
may allah guide all of us..
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What do you have against Zaytuna?

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No western scholar has reached the status that Mufti Taqi Usmani, Shaykh Abdullah Bin Bayyah, Dr. Ramadhan al-Buti, Shaykh Zuhayli, or Shaykh Bin Baz have reached.
With all due respect to Shaykh Hamza Yusuf, Imam Zaid, et al, they aren't even on the same level.
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Well ya, and they more than readily admit that.
Western scholars have the disadvantage of effectively halting most of their studies once they come back whereas the scholars in the East are always near other higher scholars. That being said, we really need more scholars.
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Re: Western-Educated Muslim Scholars VS. Eastern-Educated Muslim Scholars
I dont know but for some reason I am very scared abut the thought of Muslim scholars from the west.
Sunni or Shia --- We are not safe.
CIA penetrated the Kremlin.
During the times of Shah they penetrated into Hawzia-Qum
I am sure they have their eyes on Al-Azer university of Egypt.
Don’t be surprised if you find such such agents in the garb of scholars penetrate our system and feed records to the west on how to liquidate us.
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02-21-2008, 05:36 PM
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Re: Western-Educated Muslim Scholars VS. Eastern-Educated Muslim Scholars
al-Qarammi,? harami? salami? al-Baloney?
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