[ChotooMotoo]

Originally Posted by Abdul_Karim

I'm not going to talk to you anymore. You just want to argue, even when you have no evidence to back up your claims.

Go listen to rap music with mujahideenryder, you little Shi'ah-loving leftist commie ******.

wow, jinnzaman a shia lover? you don't read many of his posts do you? he, like everyone has a lot of bad qualities, but this one (if you consider it a bad quality) is one he doesn't posess.

[jinnzaman]

Originally Posted by Abdul_Karim

I'm not going to talk to you anymore. You just want to argue, even when you have no evidence to back up your claims.

Go listen to rap music with mujahideenryder, you little Shi'ah-loving leftist commie ******.

Oh, isn't this cliche: Stop calling me names, you communist Shia rap artist!

No surprise that you aren't answering the question: you aren't a faqih nor are you a muhaddith and I doubt you have familiarity with the Arabic language, so I'm sure as hell you didn't go through the entire Qur'an and EVERY single hadeeth of different gradings.

The real question is: is your aqeedah from a forum or a scholar (and if so, which scholar)?

[Abdul_Karim]

Originally Posted by ChotooMotoo

wow, jinnzaman a shia lover? you don't read many of his posts do you? he, like everyone has a lot of bad qualities, but this one (if you consider it a bad quality) is one he doesn't posess.

I know he's a fan of Imam Abdul-Alim Musa, the closet-Shi'ah leader of the "Sabiqun Movement".

[Abdul_Karim]

Originally Posted by jinnzaman

(and if so, which scholar)?

Imam Malik, Imam ash-Shafi'i, Imam Ahmad, Imam al-Barbahari, Khwajah Abdullah Ansari, Imam Ibn Abdul-Barr, Ghawth al-Az'am Shaykh Abd al-Qadir al-Jilani, etc.

[jinnzaman]

Originally Posted by Abdul_Karim

I know he's a fan of Imam Abdul-Alim Musa, the closet-Shi'ah leader of the "Sabiqun Movement".

hahaha, what a stupid ass childish argument.

No wonder you're a salafi. You don't have the brains to be anything but a mindless drone.

[jinnzaman]

Originally Posted by Abdul_Karim

Imam Malik, Imam ash-Shafi'i, Imam Ahmad, Imam al-Barbahari, Khwajah Abdullah Ansari, Imam Ibn Abdul-Barr, Ghawth al-Az'am Shaykh Abd al-Qadir al-Jilani, etc.

Wait, did the Zombie invasion start or did you finally build that time machine to contact these scholars?

Which books did you read by them? Or are you only reading selective quotations from forums again?

Silly retard, tricks are for magicians!

[Abdul_Karim]

Originally Posted by jinnzaman

No wonder you're a salafi. You don't have the brains to be anything but a mindless drone.

Why do you insist on calling me something I'm not? Simple-minded people like you can only see in black and white. "He disagrees with me. he must be a Salafi!" That's the same sort of logic we find on YaNabi.com.

[Khairan]

A'ite folks, I've noticed that the last three-odd pages have been marked by very little discussion and a significant degree of "Yo' mamma wears army boots."

Pack it in and get back to the topic, please. If this thread has outlived its usefulness then it will be closed.

You have fifteen seconds to comply.

[jinnzaman]

Originally Posted by Abdul_Karim

Why do you insist on calling me something I'm not? Simple-minded people like you can only see in black and white. "He disagrees with me. he must be a Salafi!" That's the same sort of logic we find on YaNabi.com.

Why don't you stop hiding behind the bushes and state the list of scholars you acquired your study of aqeedah from? If you're aqeedah is so authentic and true, then why you are hiding like a little girl?

[ShamilB]

Originally Posted by jinnzaman

Whats it matter? I'm a deviant heretic anyway? If I'm going to hell for believing that God isn't on the arsh, then why do proper manners mean anything?

Stop filling up the argument with irrelevant tangents and state your claims.

You must think of yourself too much if you think people want to debate you. Let's summarize:

1. Salahadeen starts of the thread explaining his position with evidences from Quran and Sunnah.
2. You respond by claiming a majority of people are Asharis (an argument that you used a thousand times on this forum).
3. Salahadeen explains how the Asharis started off as a fringe movement and gained more prominence after the 7th century.
4. You accuse Salahadeen of spending too much time at Islamic Awakening, including a few personal jabs at Abuz Zubair.
5. Salahadeen exposes you in a debate (not so much a debate) that you had with Abuz Zubair where you got debunked, owned, humiliated, and forced to chicken out in shame.
6. Showing more frustration at your inability to debate, you lash out at Abuz Zubair and the forum with lame childish insults, innuendos, and the one thing you do really well - playing the victim card.
7. Finally, you achieve your goal of derailing the thread and on the verge of getting locked. Bravo!

[ChotooMotoo]

Originally Posted by ShamilB

You must think of yourself too much if you think people want to debate you. Let's summarize:

1. Salahadeen starts of the thread explaining his position with evidences from Quran and Sunnah.
2. You respond by claiming a majority of people are Asharis (an argument that you used a thousand times on this forum).
3. Salahadeen explains how the Asharis started off as a fringe movement and gained more prominence after the 7th century.
4. You accuse Salahadeen of spending too much time at Islamic Awakening, including a few personal jabs at Abuz Zubair.
5. Salahadeen exposes you in a debate (not so much a debate) that you had with Abuz Zubair where you got debunked, owned, humiliated, and forced to chicken out in shame.
6. Showing more frustration at your inability to debate, you lash out at Abuz Zubair and the forum with lame childish insults, innuendos, and the one thing you do really well - playing the victim card.
7. Finally, you achieve your goal of derailing the thread and on the verge of getting locked. Bravo!

You know, usually Jinnzaman has some good things to say. However, his comments in this thread it kinda makes you want to discount all of his arguments on Islamic philosophy. .

[Variable]

So that's what's been going on in here... I thought the whole thing was a debate about wether Allah was in a chair, on a chair or above a chair.

[jinnzaman]

Originally Posted by ShamilB

You must think of yourself too much if you think people want to debate you. Let's summarize:

1. Salahadeen starts of the thread explaining his position with evidences from Quran and Sunnah.
2. You respond by claiming a majority of people are Asharis (an argument that you used a thousand times on this forum).
3. Salahadeen explains how the Asharis started off as a fringe movement and gained more prominence after the 7th century.
4. You accuse Salahadeen of spending too much time at Islamic Awakening, including a few personal jabs at Abuz Zubair.
5. Salahadeen exposes you in a debate (not so much a debate) that you had with Abuz Zubair where you got debunked, owned, humiliated, and forced to chicken out in shame.
6. Showing more frustration at your inability to debate, you lash out at Abuz Zubair and the forum with lame childish insults, innuendos, and the one thing you do really well - playing the victim card.
7. Finally, you achieve your goal of derailing the thread and on the verge of getting locked. Bravo!

That would've been a GREAT story if only we were as high and delusional as you are. Too bad you used up all the heroin.

I specifically avoided this thread and stated I had no desire to engage in a discussion because my teachers view the Salafi aqeedah to be an acceptable interpretation, but then Salahudeen (Irony Warning: Salahuddeen was named after the great Muslim general who was *surprise* an ASHARI!) started going on and on about different evidences with the attitude that they were the only opinions. Sixpakistan was getting involved in the argument about the Ashairah being the majority, I only stepped in later.

When I gave a counter argument to the argument developed by Abu Zubair, instead of responding to it, you sat there and pooped your adult diapers.

Continue with your smoke and parlor tricks! I like a good magic show!

[jinnzaman]

Originally Posted by Variable

So that's what's been going on in here... I thought the whole thing was a debate about wether Allah was in a chair, on a chair or above a chair.

The debate is about whether a fringe group of fanatics can monopolize the Islamic intellectual tradition by judging authenticity on whether God sits on a latrine or not.

[Abdul_Karim]

Originally Posted by jinnzaman

Why don't you stop hiding behind the bushes and state the list of scholars you acquired your study of aqeedah from? If you're aqeedah is so authentic and true, then why you are hiding like a little girl?

If you mean living scholars then I can name none. I've never studied aqeedah under a living scholar.

I fail to see what this has to do with me being a Salafi or not.

The debate is about whether a fringe group of fanatics can monopolize the Islamic intellectual tradition by judging authenticity on whether God sits on a latrine or not.

You are a human devil.