[Khairan]

Originally Posted by IbnAbdullah

I understand Bro, about Abu Hurayra because he was not Cat of Allah, was he? Khalid bin Wali was Sword of Allah, not a Panther of Allah, because Allah has not praised animals over humans.

Um, so you are not okay with the title "Lion of Allah" because God "has not praised animals over humans"? Can you point out an instance where He "praised swords over humans"?

Your criticism doesn't make any sense at all and in the above post you create a double-standard which your offered reasoning doesn't even begin to justify.

[Khairan]

Originally Posted by Abdul_Karim

That's unfair. He's not expressing hatred for Sayyidina Ali (radiallahu anhu), whom he apparently respects. Rather, he seems to be expressing some sort of bizarre hatred towards lions.

[Revert]

The only good thing in this thread is Abdul Karims funny.

[Pushpa]

It's a metaphor. This is a silly thread.

[IbnAbdullah]

Originally Posted by Salahadeen

Nonetheless, Ibn Abdullah does seem to have Nasibi tendencies, just like some other so-called Sunnis have Rafidhi tendencies.

We really should stick to the middle course and the opinion of the mainstream. Ibn Abdullah, the tactic you are using is forbidden in the Quran, and it is said that this is the methodology of the Yahood and the hypocrites, i.e. to ask such questions in mockery.

You really are doing a disservice to Ahl as-Sunnah wa al-Jama'ah, by giving the Shi`a ammunition to use against us. They love to claim we are Nawaasib, when we are not! It is people like you who confuse the matter.

Please, please, speak with reverence towards Ali ibn Abi Talib [ra].

You can't say you are sticking to the middle course, this is as shias say they are sticking to the 'right path'. You simply can't judge yourself, the judge is Allah, His words (Quran) or the Sunnah.
I didn't ask this question to Ahlus Sunnah but to shias, you shouldn't get so emotional, my question is part of objective criticism, I'm not questioning the status of Ali r.a, I'm only asking why this title was given to him though this doesn't make any sense apparently/evidently. Keeping this in view that Rawafid have forged lots of lies on the Prophet Muhammad s.a.w in order to show that Ali r.a is the best and no one equals him. Unfortunately the mainstreem of sunnis is often fooled by the them, funny is that they 'think' they are sticking to 'middle path'. Well, I don't blame sunnis, they are just simple fellows, not that 'clever' as Rawafid are.

[IbnAbdullah]

Originally Posted by Jamroll

Okay you two, pack it in.

I think the original poster should substantiate his argument with some sort of information as to why he feels that the Asadullah title is a problem.

Otherwise, there is no point to this thread

The problem is I don't find any authentic source where 'Ali r.a has been called 'Asadullah', which rings the bell because I know the 'lovers of Ali' are famous for forging lies on Allah and His Messenger; Besides, I have to look at the history of Persians, probably they have fantacised 'lions' that's why Ali r.a is called 'Lion of Allah' in the so called history of Islam.

In short, I would like to know if there is any reliable narration where the Prophet Muhammad s.a.w has addressed Ali r.a as Asadullah, because I don't see only Ali r.a the most gallant among the companions of Prophet s.a.w, there are others who are more praised by the Prophet for their bravery and courage, for instance, check the most reliable sources of narrations e.g Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim; they praise other companions more than Ali r.a for anything. Were Imam Bukhari and Imam Muslim Nasibis then, or they had nasibi tendencies?

[IbnAbdullah]

Originally Posted by Khairan

Um, so you are not okay with the title "Lion of Allah" because God "has not praised animals over humans"? Can you point out an instance where He "praised swords over humans"?

No, I'm really not ok with this title of 'Lion of Allah' because I don't like lions for they drink blood etc. They are not even reared as pets.
The title 'Sword of Allah' does make sense because Swords were what used in the battles by Muslims those days against Kuffar, so 'Sword of Allah' means the Sword which is never broken but breaks the swords of Kuffar and that was really true for Khalid ibn Walid r.a.

Your criticism doesn't make any sense at all and in the above post you create a double-standard which your offered reasoning doesn't even begin to justify.

You are not willing to come out of the 'blind love' of Imam Ali, start thinking from now if you think Allah has granted you with 'aql'.

[Timbit]

You're still going on about this? Wow.
Asad is a nice name.

[kellyjaz]

May Allah burn the nawasib, Ameen.

Any objections?
none.

Goodbye, you are the weakest link.

[Khairan]

Originally Posted by IbnAbdullah

No, I'm really not ok with this title of 'Lion of Allah' because I don't like lions for they drink blood etc. They are not even reared as pets.
The title 'Sword of Allah' does make sense because Swords were what used in the battles by Muslims those days against Kuffar, so 'Sword of Allah' means the Sword which is never broken but breaks the swords of Kuffar and that was really true for Khalid ibn Walid r.a.

You are not willing to come out of the 'blind love' of Imam Ali, start thinking from now if you think Allah has granted you with 'aql'.

My "God-given aql" is telling me that you have issues with how to use metaphors.

[LEGALEAGLE]

Cwazy...this topic is cwazy like a fox...