|
|

02-10-2008, 05:51 PM
|
 |
___________
Offline
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2002
Rating:
Posts: 22,946
|
|
Re: Imam Ali a 'Lion' or 'Human Being'?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Timbit
How are humans superior to animals, huh?

|
..you're kidding, right?
|

02-10-2008, 05:57 PM
|
 |
Senior Member
Offline
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2008
Rating:
Posts: 325
|
|
Re: Imam Ali a 'Lion' or 'Human Being'?
In fact, the Quran does mention that some human beings are worse than animals.
|

02-10-2008, 07:32 PM
|
 |
Senior Member
Offline
|
|
Join Date: May 2004
Rating:
Posts: 12,757
|
|
Re: Imam Ali a 'Lion' or 'Human Being'?
This has to be one of the most bizarre ramblings I've come across here.
|

02-10-2008, 07:39 PM
|
 |
Souljabi
Offline
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 14,670
|
|
Re: Imam Ali a 'Lion' or 'Human Being'?
IbnAbdullah: I never heard a lion defeat an army or conquered Khaiber.. in fact lions were not used in wars though horses and camels even elephants were used, but lions..no they were never used. Then I don't understand how a lion can be better than or superior to we humans? Lion has a tail, we don't, we are omnivores, lions are not, we brush our teeth or miswak, lions can't..hey we are better than lions, we can even hunt them using AK47 or the torpedoes? I'm not sure, never tried.
Anyways, please tell me how Imam Ali can be a lion of Allah while he's a human being, and humans are better than lions, Imam Ali is supposed to be a Human Slave of Allah, agree?
Does Quran praise any lion in the world?
What the hell?
For once I agree with sixpak [no I'm sure hell didn't freeze over yet]. I don't know why anyone entertained this dudes ridiculous post by seriously responding to it.

shadha-
__________________
You may shoot me with your words,
You may cut me with your eyes,
You may kill me with your hatefulness,
But still, like air, I'll rise.
BREAST CANCER
|

02-10-2008, 08:47 PM
|
 |
Senior Member
Offline
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2002
Rating:
Posts: 15,206
|
|
Re: Imam Ali a 'Lion' or 'Human Being'?
Quote:
Originally Posted by sally
..you're kidding, right?
|
Half-kidding.

__________________
And those who strive in Our (cause),- We will certainly guide them to our Paths: For verily Allah is with those who do right (Qur'an 29:69).
|

02-10-2008, 08:49 PM
|
 |
___________
Offline
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2002
Rating:
Posts: 22,946
|
|
Re: Imam Ali a 'Lion' or 'Human Being'?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Timbit
Half-kidding.

|
which means precisely, what..?
|

02-10-2008, 08:52 PM
|
 |
Senior Member
Offline
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2002
Rating:
Posts: 15,206
|
|
Re: Imam Ali a 'Lion' or 'Human Being'?
Quote:
Originally Posted by sally
which means precisely, what..?
|
That I was joking about him being species-ist, but not the second bit.
I dunno if we're superior to animals. Different perhaps.

__________________
And those who strive in Our (cause),- We will certainly guide them to our Paths: For verily Allah is with those who do right (Qur'an 29:69).
|

02-10-2008, 11:16 PM
|
 |
Senior Member
Offline
|
|
Join Date: May 2004
Rating:
Posts: 12,757
|
|
Re: Imam Ali a 'Lion' or 'Human Being'?
we're superior to animals because
a) we have 'aql and choice in worship.
b) we are capable of controlling our base needs for higher purpose (or more capable; animals can do this at times as well, subhanallah)
some humans are inferior or equivalent to animals because they allow their nafs (=~ animal self) to control them.
nevertheless, the original post is amazingly stupid. "Lion of Allah" is obviously a figurative term that is meant to highlight the courage & ferocity (in battle) of Ali (RA). The Prophet (SAW)'s uncle Hamzah (RA) also earned this title, and afaik it was also used to refer to mujahideen in general, ie "lions of Allah."
some people take things a bit too literally.. in fact, some people make a madhab out of taking things a bit too literally.
|

02-10-2008, 11:25 PM
|
 |
Resident Realist
Offline
|
|
Join Date: May 2006
Rating:
Posts: 8,864
|
|
Re: Imam Ali a 'Lion' or 'Human Being'?
In comparison to Ali(RA) i'd be the Mouse of Allah..may Allah be pleased with him.
__________________
Ninjas can kill anyone they want! Ninjas cut off heads ALL the time and don't even think twice about it. These guys are so crazy and awesome that they flip out ALL the time. I heard that there was this ninja who was eating at a diner. And when some dude dropped a spoon the ninja killed the whole town. My friend Mark said that he saw a ninja totally uppercut some kid just because the kid opened a window.
|

02-11-2008, 04:30 AM
|
 |
Junior Member
Offline
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 21
|
|
Re: Imam Ali a 'Lion' or 'Human Being'?
Good posts by many of the Islamicans here. Well done, boys.
|

02-11-2008, 06:34 AM
|
 |
Senior Member
Offline
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2006
Rating:
Posts: 1,553
|
|
Re: Imam Ali a 'Lion' or 'Human Being'?
Quote:
Originally Posted by rahat
Nasibi.
-
rahat
|
Rafidhi
..
__________________
I am considering two promises. One is the promise of God, the other is that of Bush. The promise of God is that my land is vast. If you start a journey on God's path, you can reside anywhere on this earth and will be protected... The promise of Bush is that there is no place on earth where you can hide that I cannot find you. We will see which one of these two promises is fulfilled. Mullah Muhammad 'Umar
|

02-11-2008, 10:10 AM
|
 |
Senior Member
Offline
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2005
Rating:
Posts: 2,234
|
|
Re: Imam Ali a 'Lion' or 'Human Being'?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shahnawaz
Rafidhi
..
|
happily so 
__________________
anyone who kills an innocent should go to hell
|

02-11-2008, 10:14 AM
|
 |
ModRoll the Mergerator
Online
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2004
Rating:
Posts: 18,259
|
|
Re: Imam Ali a 'Lion' or 'Human Being'?
Okay you two, pack it in.
I think the original poster should substantiate his argument with some sort of information as to why he feels that the Asadullah title is a problem.
Otherwise, there is no point to this thread
__________________
The time will never be ‘just right’.
Start where you stand, work with whatever tools you may have at your command,
and better tools will be found as you go along.
|

02-11-2008, 10:49 AM
|
 |
Senior Member
Offline
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2005
Rating:
Posts: 2,234
|
|
Re: Imam Ali a 'Lion' or 'Human Being'?
Close the thread! There's no purpose except to insult Imam Ali.
Quite disgusting.
__________________
anyone who kills an innocent should go to hell
|

02-11-2008, 11:31 AM
|
 |
Stop being two-faced
Offline
|
|
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 6,955
|
|
Re: Imam Ali a 'Lion' or 'Human Being'?
Its just a title...
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|