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Old 01-19-2008, 04:22 AM
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Hi Folks

Once I have read the article which asked religious scholars of different Muslim sects, how would they define a Muslim? This report has been published and is available. Some of these scholars refused to answer the question saying that they would need a lot of time and pages to answer it. The report said the following about them; "Amongst these scholars even two did not have the same answer."

You guys don't have to accept this statement. But you can yourself ask the religious scholars of different Muslim sects the definition of "Muslim" and "Islam". The replies will themselves convince you of the correctness of the above answer. It is imperative that when we say the Muslims have left Islam, we should establish a definitive concept of Islam. If we don't, it is meaningless to say that Muslims have left Islam. This is the primary reason that the Muslims all over are unable to adopt Islam in-spite of their agreeing that they are no longer good Muslims. They do not fully comprehend what they have left and what they should do to remedy the situation. We would like to clarify here that every Muslim sect may be able to define "Islam" as their sect considers it to be, but the Islam which should be common to the Muslim Nation and by virtue of which they are known as the Muslim Nation, none will be able to define. We are sure, at this stage you must be wondering that although this question is of fundamental importance, you have never thought about it. Further, that you are an ordinary person and your knowledge of "Al Deen" (Islam) is limited and therefore you are unable to answer such a question. At the same time you must be wondering what has happened to our religious scholars that even they could not give a unified reply and in spite of it they have been able to keep their position in Muslim Nation. How come they have been able to satisfy the Muslims about Islam?

It needs a special efforts and that is creation and use of certain terminology about which the people are convinced, that it is "Holy”. These so called scholars keep these terms a little vague, a clear and concrete concepts attached to these terms are never defined. The reason being is that, mostly it will be their own decision which they have presented in the name of Islam or sometimes it will be the decision of their own sect. Of course the decision of any particular sect cannot be considered as the decision of Islam. They will always keep this aspect vague.

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Indeed, its very interesting. And thank you for posting friend.
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Funny that the Quran-only-Band does the blind taqleed of their own mullas and all they do is
'oh no, oh no, everyone is wrong over the past 1400 years, they follow hadith, they don't follow Quran, they follow their scholars, oh no, gimme a copy of English translation of Quran and I tell you what the meaning of verse number so and so is..'
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Funny that the Quran-only-Band does the blind taqleed of their own mullas and all they do is
'oh no, oh no, everyone is wrong over the past 1400 years, they follow hadith, they don't follow Quran, they follow their scholars, oh no, gimme a copy of English translation of Quran and I tell you what the meaning of verse number so and so is..'
salam,

The Qur'an clearly teaches that Muslims should never blind-follow, but use logic, wisdom and understanding when pondering over religion and the Qur'an. This means that for someone who follows the Qur'an, it is impossible for them to be a blind-follower. On the other hand, attaching oneself to a particular sect (eg. Sunnism) means Muslims are barred from studying the Qur'an themselves, since they are told that only an elite group of scholars from their sect have the right to study the Qur'an. Hence they are left with no option but to accept whatever their scholar says. In other words, your post is nothing short of hypocrisy.

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Duck Season!

Wabbit Season!

Duck Season!

Wabbit Season!

..and the beat goes on...
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salam,

The Qur'an clearly teaches that Muslims should never blind-follow, but use logic, wisdom and understanding when pondering over religion and the Qur'an. This means that for someone who follows the Qur'an, it is impossible for them to be a blind-follower. On the other hand, attaching oneself to a particular sect (eg. Sunnism) means Muslims are barred from studying the Qur'an themselves, since they are told that only an elite group of scholars from their sect have the right to study the Qur'an. Hence they are left with no option but to accept whatever their scholar says. In other words, your post is nothing short of hypocrisy.

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That's the propaganda of Quranite liars that scholars have put a ban on masses to read Quran themselves. I have read Quran myself and found that amazing, from Quran I learnt Quranites are fitna mongers, who interpret allegorical verses of Quran to misguide Muslims. Quranites are blind followers of hadith rejector mullas.
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