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assalamu alaykum
1.Is everything that the Prophet saw did a sunnah? That's a genuine question.
2.Has it been recommended for men to marry more than once?
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What is the Sunnah?
I recommend reading this and reaidng its related links...inshaAllah
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01-18-2008, 06:58 PM
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Re: Polygyny
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So is getting married to a second wife..or getting married to man who's already married a sin?! I don't believe it is. Not to be all mushy but sometimes two people just *click*. I'd rather my husband marry the girl, than commit zina/adultery.
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....men and women don't usually just *click* it takes a while, even if a short while...and really that sort of interaction shouldn't be happening. And yes, there are some women who don't mind their husband having a second wife. Each to the their own.
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01-18-2008, 07:02 PM
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Those fearful and loving of their Lord wouldn't take on MORE responsibility lol.
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Most men in the Western world are *not* getting married to help out a ''poor widow'' with x children. Most men who are married wouldn't take on a second wife. It's only 19 year old boys who claim they want to be just to two+. Please, focus on trying to get one woman to agree to live with u forever. Most men will never do justice to their wives, financially, emotionally, everything - why would anyone take on the extra baggage?
plus,you cannot compare men now to the sahaaba lol. As people who are closer to the yawn of qiyamah we should try not make unnecessary trials and tribulations for ourselves lol.
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You're right, we can't compare men now to the sahaba (RA).
Noone in history was more fearful and loving of their Lord than the sahabas (RA), who regularly took multiple wives and saw nothing wrong with it. Not just for the sake of marrying a widow or an orphan either, but because they simply wanted another wife.
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01-18-2008, 07:07 PM
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I like you.
But I don't want to be your second wife. We should don't *click*.
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I see how that works. However if we couldn't do them justice and that was the case the the Prophet wouldn't have allowed any of his companions to it or any of the people of Makkah and Medina.. ..right?
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Yeah, that's what I thought, but I think the argument is that it depends on context and polygny is not something that's appropriate in the modern day.
And my friend never said that; my prof did.
IbnMardhiyah: She just said this is how some scholars interpret it. And I asked her which ones, but we kind of ran out of time. We're gonna continue the discussion, no worries. It's only the beginning of the semester. She's Muslim herself.  And none of the other Muslims in the class took issue with what she said.
 
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Yeah, that's what I thought, but I think the argument is that it depends on context and polygny is not something that's appropriate in the modern day.
And my friend never said that; my prof did.
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I see what you mean. I agree that in America specifically that Polygyny wouldn't work as its illegal in most, if not all states. However in the countries that operate under an Islamic-esqe law do you think it would work there?
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I see what you mean. I agree that in America specifically that Polygyny wouldn't work as its illegal in most, if not all states. However in the countries that operate under an Islamic-esqe law do you think it would work there?
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I think it'd only really work in patriarchal societies where women need men to support them.
iSHi: Cheating's cheating, whether he's doing it legally or not.
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I think it'd only really work in patriarchal societies where women need men to support them.
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I agree with that, however if I knew some people mutually willing to go through with a polygynous marriage then i'd support them 100%.
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The Prophet (peace be on him) and a number of great companions (may Allah be pleased with them) are reported to have more than one wife. Didn't they understand the Qur'an as well as you understand? The last time I read more about the above-mentioned Quranic verse in a tafsir, I remember it as saying it can be more virtuous to have more than one wife.
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This post hits the nail on the head. If they did it, then whatever they did is obviously the correct interpretation.
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I agree with that, however if I knew some people mutually willing to go through with a polygynous marriage then i'd support them 100%.
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Yeah, well... if all three or four parties are okay with it, then hey, more power to them.
Maybe some wives want their husbands to get married again for whatever reason. They don't want to spend as much time fulfilling their marital duties or whatever. *shrug*
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and i quote ''not have to do their washing, ironing''
That made me sad, though, those things can be done voluntarily with contentment. Maybe she didnt have a choice in the matter of the second wife, though. Don't see how its recommended to get a second wife and jepordise ur first marriage if ur wife isn't cool with it. How islamic is that? It's fine in societies/cultures where it's the norm, like yemen...but wales?! Get ur wife to iron ur suit and shirt and not tell her it's for a second marriage ceremony? NICEEE.
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It's not fine in any culture.
And he should be doing his own washing and ironing in any case. Some people like to talk about following the Sunnah only when it suits them though, I guess.
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I meant marrying a second wife when both wives know and consent to being co -wives.
I don't think it's very wise to go behind ur wife's back and marry again (in any place or time). Who would marry the kind of man that would do that? Unless wife 2 didnt know about wife 1..
Yep. This sunnah is almost a moral obligation to some and so honourably take on the duty. What goes around comes around, peopel should treat one another with respect and love.
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Timbit, sorry I assumed she was some non-Muslim pontificating about Islam from a secular point of view. In any case, keep her honest.
zeezee - only 2% of Muslim marriages worldwide are polygynous. [FYI]
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The trick is to get your wife under wraps in the first few weeks, give her a slap or two and make her feel like you've done a big favour for marrying her that's when you get wife number two.
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