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01-18-2008, 11:18 AM
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And Timbit - why did you open up this can of worms AGAIN?? 
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Oh, have we talked about it before?
I know we've discussed polygny countless times. But I'd never heard this notion of "You won't be able to do justice" before.
We were discussing it in my Gender and Islam class and I was just wondering.

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Oh, have we talked about it before?
I know we've discussed polygny countless times. But I'd never heard this notion of "You won't be able to do justice" before.
We were discussing it in my Gender and Islam class and I was just wondering.

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Ah, well maybe the justice thing hasn't been focussed on in-depth before; I was just referring to the topic of polygyny in general. Hope you're getting some answers or at least some new food for thought! 
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Ah, well maybe the justice thing hasn't been focussed on in-depth before; I was just referring to the topic of polygyny in general. Hope you're getting some answers or at least some new food for thought! 
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Hmmm. Kind of am, I guess.
I dunno. My prof said something funny which made me and my friend go like  but the other Muslims in the class didn't seem to have a problem with it and you Islamicans seem to be agreeing with her too.

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Hmmm. Kind of am, I guess.
I dunno. My prof said something funny which made me and my friend go like  but the other Muslims in the class didn't seem to have a problem with it and you Islamicans seem to be agreeing with her too.

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What did she say?
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What did she say?
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Basically, that the Qur'an says marry more than one woman if you think you'll be able to do justice but that you will never be able to do justice. And then she said that some scholars interpret that to mean polygny's not allowed. She kind of evaded my question about which scholars.
She also said marriage in Islam is not sacred but is a legal contract, which made some people go like  too.

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Basically, that the Qur'an says marry more than one woman if you think you'll be able to do justice but that you will never be able to do justice. And then she said that some scholars interpret that to mean polygny's not allowed. She kind of evaded my question about which scholars.

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I'm yet wondering about where this came from. Source?
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She also said marriage in Islam is not sacred but is a legal contract, which made some people go like  too.
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Well that would be wrong too because any legal contract under Shariah would be considered sacred no?
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She also said marriage in Islam is not sacred but is a legal contract, which made some people go like  too.

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That means that your marriage contract is an actual contract subject to law. It's a contract between you, your husband, and I guess the state, as opposed to a contract between you, your husband, and God. That's what I understand anyway.
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Polygyny can work but it is EXTREMLY hard. Especially when one wife lives in one country and the other some where. Alhamdulilah, I guess my dad is pretty good about dividing his time as equally as possible. Anyways iA Khair. 
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We might not be able to them justice, but the best we can do is to try. Seeking to imitate the life of the last prophet is the noblest of ambitions.
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Basically, that the Qur'an says marry more than one woman if you think you'll be able to do justice but that you will never be able to do justice. And then she said that some scholars interpret that to mean polygny's not allowed. She kind of evaded my question about which scholars.
She also said marriage in Islam is not sacred but is a legal contract, which made some people go like  too.

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I see how that works. However if we couldn't do them justice and that was the case the the Prophet wouldn't have allowed any of his companions to it or any of the people of Makkah and Medina.. ..right?
Also the point your friend made about marriage is right and wrong. Marriage (nikkah) is a contract but its also sacred. Its a contract in accordance to sacred law (shari'a) but also the notion of two people coming together is sacred too.
I would never take a second wife...
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Most men in the Western world are *not* getting married to help out a ''poor widow'' with x children. Most men who are married wouldn't take on a second wife. It's only 19 year old boys who claim they want to be just to two+. Please, focus on trying to get one woman to agree to live with u forever. Most men will never do justice to their wives, financially, emotionally, everything - why would anyone take on the extra baggage?
plus,you cannot compare men now to the sahaaba lol. As people who are closer to the yawn of qiyamah we should try not make unnecessary trials and tribulations for ourselves lol.
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Basically, that the Qur'an says marry more than one woman if you think you'll be able to do justice but that you will never be able to do justice. And then she said that some scholars interpret that to mean polygny's not allowed. She kind of evaded my question about which scholars.
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I've read more than one tafseer which stated that this was referring to loving each one of them equally [as opposed to merely treating each one at the same level of material support] and it is impossible for a man to love more than one woman with the same level of love.
If I find it. I'll get it to you and yeah ... ask her who she's referring to and demand some sources. Don't let her brush you off.
If anything, she better know that Muslim students in the class will demand intellectual and academic honesty from her and keep her on her toes.
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We might not be able to them justice, but the best we can do is to try. Seeking to imitate the life of the last prophet is the noblest of ambitions.
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1.Is everything that the Prophet saw did a sunnah? That's a genuine question.
2.Has it been recommended for men to marry more than once?
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So is getting married to a second wife..or getting married to man who's already married a sin?! I don't believe it is. Not to be all mushy but sometimes two people just *click*. I'd rather my husband marry the girl, than commit zina/adultery.
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