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Old 01-05-2008, 11:56 PM
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What is the Islamic view on revenge?

Is revenge ever allowed or must you always forgive the person who has wronged you?
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not sure, but I have heard an eye for an eye. Though I do know that it is better if you do forgive.
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Are we allowed to hold grudges against people?
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This one I'm not sure on, but I have heard that 3 days is the max. Please someone with more knowledge correct me if I'm wrong.
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This one I'm not sure on, but I have heard that 3 days is the max. Please someone with more knowledge correct me if I'm wrong.
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Shunning a Muslim is not permissible, because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “It is not permissible for a Muslim to forsake his brother for more than three days, each of them turning away from the other when they meet. The better of them is the first to greet the other with salaam.”
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I am extremely spiteful and vindictive to the point where I become maliciously cutthroat. If someone does me wrong, I will hold a grudge and will intentionally plot against them until they suffer enough to my satisfaction. It's a bit twisted but most of the times I don't even realize I'm doing it, since I'm so focused on screwing them over. Is this permissible? Don't know and quite frankly I can't say that I care. Do me wrong and I'll do you dirty. Fact of my life. The only time when I try to stop myself is when it comes to my husband. My family, bleh no matter what we're still blood, but my husband...it's different. So many times I have caught myself, because I know this would eventually cost me my marriage, for that's how bad it could get.


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I am extremely spiteful and vindictive to the point where I become maliciously cutthroat. If someone does me wrong, I will hold a grudge and will intentionally plot against them until they suffer enough to my satisfaction. It's a bit twisted but most of the times I don't even realize I'm doing it, since I'm so focused on screwing them over. Is this permissible? Don't know and quite frankly I can't say that I care. Do me wrong and I'll do you dirty. Fact of my life.


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I hear ya Shadha... I am holding a big time grudge against another muslim... I even had a dream where I made amends with this person... but not in real life!
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I am extremely spiteful and vindictive to the point where I become maliciously cutthroat. If someone does me wrong, I will hold a grudge and will intentionally plot against them until they suffer enough to my satisfaction. It's a bit twisted but most of the times I don't even realize I'm doing it, since I'm so focused on screwing them over. Is this permissible? Don't know and quite frankly I can't say that I care. Do me wrong and I'll do you dirty. Fact of my life. The only time when I try to stop myself is when it comes to my husband. My family, bleh no matter what we're still blood, but my husband...it's different. So many times I have caught myself, because I know this would eventually cost me my marriage, for that's how bad it could get.


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Don't you think Allah will give them an even "greater" punishment? Why bother yourself with it? It doens't even sound right, especially if these people you plot against are Muslims.
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What about non-Muslims? Some non-Muslims stole $300 from me.

But yeah, I'm confused about Islam's stance on revenge. I guess it depends on situation.
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What about non-Muslims? Some non-Muslims stole $300 from me.

But yeah, I'm confused about Islam's stance on revenge. I guess it depends on situation.
Islam Question and Answer - Should we forgive the kuffaar if they harm us?

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I guess, but $300 was still stolen from me.

Inshallah I'll get my money back and everything.
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iSHi: Don't you think Allah will give them an even "greater" punishment? Why bother yourself with it? It doens't even sound right, especially if these people you plot against are Muslims.

Whether Allah, swt, will eventually give them a greater punishment or not is irrelevant to worldly affairs of today. I bother myself because I am not going to bend over and allow someone to screw me and than say Allahu Alim. Having the title as a Muslim does not automatically give you leeway to be mean and get away with it, again, expecting everyone to say Allahu Alim towards your actions.


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yo I was asking for you Islamicans to tell me, not for online fatwas
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I guess, but $300 was still stolen from me.

Inshallah I'll get my money back and everything.
Yea it sucks, but imagine the kind of punishment THEY will get. I won't say too much, but a very close Muslim friend of the family stole/cheated my dad. Now my Dad could've easily snapped his neck and/or taught him a good lesson. But he left it to Allah. It's really for the best. Anyways, I hope you get your money back.
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iSHi: Don't you think Allah will give them an even "greater" punishment? Why bother yourself with it? It doens't even sound right, especially if these people you plot against are Muslims.

Whether Allah, swt, will eventually give them a greater punishment or not is irrelevant to worldly affairs of today. I bother myself because I am not going to bend over and allow someone to screw me and than say Allahu Alim. Having the title as a Muslim does not automatically give you leeway to be mean and get away with it, again, expecting everyone to say Allahu Alim towards your actions.


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I empathize with you however I was told by soemone that you have to forgive if you want Allah to forgive you and hence the dilemma... I feel super wronged by a certain individual. So wronged that I dont want to make amends.
I even felt that I would stand in the court of Allah on the Day of Judgement and recount all the harm this person has done to my life and thus take all or alot of his good deeds as recompense. But I dunno, I feel that thinking like this may be wrong, and when talking about it to others I keep the most harsh words to myself because I dont want to do injustice.
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