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asalaamu Alaikum

I've recently been interested in the Science fo tasawwuf so feel free to share links, article and general reaidng on the subject.

If you are a Murid of a Shaykh or belong to a tariqa then feel free to share inspriationa nd stories.

Those who be hating feel free to not press the reply button

[Liam_Saiful_Din]

Uh oh...while your intentions are good I'm sure, this thread is a disaster waiting to happen. Folks that spell the word 'sufi' like 'soofee' and all the troid.orgers will be here any time. The bid'ah signal has been flashed in the sky much like the bat signal and they will be a comin' soon.

[TariqBinSleepin]

Hrmm..this is interesting stuff. I wonder, have you visited this site?

What is Tasawwuf - Tasawwuf.org

[Rida]

Originally Posted by TariqBinSleepin

Hrmm..this is interesting stuff. I wonder, have you visited this site?

What is Tasawwuf - Tasawwuf.org

That's shaykh hussain's teachers website

Shaykh hussain's website is sacredlearning.org

Wassalaam

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Originally Posted by Liam_Saiful_Din

Uh oh...while your intentions are good I'm sure, this thread is a disaster waiting to happen. Folks that spell the word 'sufi' like 'soofee' and all the troid.orgers will be here any time. The bid'ah signal has been flashed in the sky much like the bat signal and they will be a comin' soon.

I'm hoping it won't come to that as I would liek to think we can be more mature than that.

I was hoping people like your good self would share some stories as I ahev never really met any Sufi Shayukh nor any Murids, i'd love ot know what goes on withing Tariqas and what you guys talk about and such.

If anyone wants to play the bid'ah card they can kindly not post in my thread insha'Allah.

Originally Posted by TariqBinSleepin

Hrmm..this is interesting stuff. I wonder, have you visited this site?

What is Tasawwuf - Tasawwuf.org

I have visited that site before thanks for sharing the link agian though!

Originally Posted by Rida

That's shaykh hussain's teachers website

Shaykh hussain's website is sacredlearning.org

Wassalaam

Thanks for sharing

[Liam_Saiful_Din]

Asalamu Alaikum,
I've no problem answering questions, but just not on here. I can give you my email and discuss things there if you wish. I'll answer what I can and what I cannot, I'll ask someone else.

[Revert]

Originally Posted by Liam_Saiful_Din

Asalamu Alaikum,
I've no problem answering questions, but just not on here. I can give you my email and discuss things there if you wish. I'll answer what I can and what I cannot, I'll ask someone else.

Walaikum asalaam

I'll formulate some coherent questions and shoot them over to you inshaAllah. I ahve your email alhamdulillah so i'll email you soon inshaAllah.

[Rida]

Shadhili Tariqa - Home
A website by the students of shaykh Nuh (may Allah preserve and protect him).
They often post articles by the shaykh on there.

Wassalaam

[zzze]

assalamu alaykum

i like habib ali , the studen of habib umar, but im not a student, i'm just lost.

[AbuAlAbbas]

my only contribution to this thread...


Praise be to Allaah.

It is important for us to understand, firstly, that the words “Tasawwuf” and “Sufism” are modern terms which refer to something that is not automatically approved of in sharee’ah as the words eemaan (faith), Islam and ihsaan are. Neither is it automatically condemned like the words kufr, fusooq (immorality) and ‘asyaan (disobedience, sin).

In such cases, we need to find out more about what is meant by such words before we can pass comment. Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: “The words al-faqr and al-tasawwuf (i.e., Sufism) may include some things that are loved by Allaah and His Messenger, and these are things that are enjoined even if they are called faqr or tasawwuf, because the Qur’aan and Sunnah indicate that they are mustahabb and that is not altered if they called by other names. That also includes actions of the heart such as repentance and patience. And it may include things that are hated by Allaah and His Messenger, such as some kinds of belief in incarnation and pantheism, or monasticism that has been innovated in Islam, or things that go against sharee’ah and have been innovated, and so on. These things are forbidden no matter what names they are given… And it may include limiting oneself to a certain style of clothing or certain customs, ways of speaking and behaving, in such a way that anyone who goes beyond it is regarded as an outsider, although this is not something that has been stipulated in the Qur’aan or Sunnah; rather it may be something that is permissible or it may be something that is makrooh, and this is a bid’ah that is forbidden. This is not the way of the friends of Allaah (awliya’ Allaah); such things are innovations and misguidance that exists among those who claim to follow the Sufi path. Similarly, among those who claim to be servants of knowledge there are innovations that involve beliefs and words that go against the Qur’aan and Sunnah, using phrases and terminology that have no basis in sharee’ah. Many such things happen among those people.

The wise believer agrees with all people in that in which they are in accordance with the Qur’aan and Sunnah and obey Allaah and His Messenger, but he does not agree with that in which they go against the Qur’aan and Sunnah and disobey Allaah and His Messenger. He accepts from every group that which was taught by the Messenger… when a person seeks the truth and justice, based on knowledge, he is one of the successful friends of Allaah and His victorious party…
Al-Fataawa, 11/280-290.

But what Shaykh al-Islam said about the view of Sufis depending on their situation is almost too theoretical for our times, when the objectionable matters that he referred to have become part of the path of those who call themselves Sufis nowadays, in addition to the different occasions they celebrate such as the Mawlid, and their exaggeration about their living shaykhs, and their attachment to shrines and graves, where they pray and circumambulate the graves and make vows to them, and other well-known practices of theirs. Because of these matters, the correct approach now is to warn against them with no reservations. This is what was agreed upon by the Standing Committee in their answer to a question about the ruling on the Sufi tareeqahs that exist nowadays. They said:

Usually those that are called Sufis nowadays follow bid’ahs (innovations) that constitute shirk, as well as other kinds of bid’ah, such as when some of them say “Madad ya sayyid (Help, O Master)”, and call upon the qutubs (“holy men”), and recite dhikr in unison using names by Allaah has not called Himself, like saying “Huw, Huw (He, He)” and “Ah, Ah (a contraction of the word ‘Allaah’)”. Whoever reads their books will be aware of many of their innovations that constitute shirk, and other evils.

[Liam_Saiful_Din]

I rest my case. At least the 'soofeee' spelling didn't come up

Gotta love copy/paste scholars. This is for you folks

[rahma]

Originally Posted by Rida

Shadhili Tariqa - Home
A website by the students of shaykh Nuh (may Allah preserve and protect him).
They often post articles by the shaykh on there.

Wassalaam

The navigation is a little messed up on the Shadhili Tariqa webpage, at least on the IE browser that I'm using. There are drop down menus from the headers, but the options don't show up. If you hover your mouse around a bit, you'll find a link to click on.

Also, sometimes the audio downloads don't work. You can get most of the audios at the suhba site as well. I can't recommend the audios highly enough.

[sixpakistan]

I highly recommend

any part of Imam Ghazali's Ihya (especially "Inner Dimensions of Islamic Worship")

Habib Ali Jifri's book "Wayfarers to God"

Shaykh Abdul Qadir Jilani's "al Fathu al Rabbani" (The Endowment of Divine Grace & the Spread of Divine Mercy)

[AbuAlAbbas]

Originally Posted by Liam_Saiful_Din

I rest my case. At least the 'soofeee' spelling didn't come up

Gotta love copy/paste scholars. This is for you folks

This is an ignorant belief that many have with copy and pasting..... im not a scholar, so i'd rather post the works of a scholar. You on the other hand are apparently a scholar, or a laymen who goes off at the mouth like hes a scholar since you "gotta love copy/paste scholars", but then again you are probably ahl ul kalam, and you dont really have to have knowledge to be ahlul kalam.

[sixpakistan]

Originally Posted by AbuAlAbbas

This is an ignorant belief that many have with copy and pasting..... im not a scholar, so i'd rather post the works of a scholar. You on the other hand are apparently a scholar, or a laymen who goes off at the mouth like hes a scholar since you "gotta love copy/paste scholars", but then again you are probably ahl ul kalam, and you dont really have to have knowledge to be ahlul kalam.

go answer my questions in the salafi thread please