[ibnishaq]

is it true that dogs are haraam? why are they haram? any proof?

i myself have 3 dogs and could not understand why they would be haram

[TariqBinSleepin]

AssalamuAlaikum

Here you go. This will put some more input. Please read as this should clarify some Besides cats r cooler :P

"Keeping dogs inside the house without any necessity merely as pets was forbidden by the Prophet (peace be on him). When we observe how lavishly the well-to-do treat their dogs while despising their relatives, and how much attention they give their dogs while neglecting their neighbors, we realize the wisdom of this prohibition.

Moreover, the presence of a dog makes the household utensils unhygienic due to their licking of them. The Prophet (peace be on him) said,

"If a dog licks a plate (or pot), clean it seven times, of which one time should be with sand (or earth)." (Reported by al-Bukhari.)


Some scholars are of the opinion that the reason for prohibiting the keeping of dogs may be because they bark at visitors, scare away the needy who come to ask for charity, and chase and try to bite passers-by.


The Prophet (peace be on him) said,

Jibril came to me and said, 'I came to you yesterday but what stopped me from entering was that there was a statue at the door, a curtain with figures on it in the house, and a dog inside the house. So order that the head of the statue be broken off so that it resembles the trunk of tree, that the curtain be cut and made into two pillows to recline on, and that the dog be taken out.' (Reported by AbDaoud, al-Nisai, al-Tirmidhi, and by Ibn Hibban in his Sahih.)

This prohibition is limited to keeping dogs without need or benefit. "

[gmk]

Oh, maaaan..... I belong to a Muslim club where I live, and I asked this question once on an email list. What ensued was a long, PASSIONATE argument between these people:

"I can't believe how anyone could keep such a DISGUSTING ANIMAL in their HOUSE!! I don't understand how people can be so obviously CONFUSED and IGNORANT."

and these people:

"How DARE you criticize my DOG??? He's like my CHILD!!!!"

But when I asked someone to come up with Islamic justifications for their feelings (not just their opinions about dogs, which are totally dictated by cultural upbringing), no one said a word. I REALLY hope that isn't the case here.

Can someone come up with an ayat or authentic hadith about this, please?

[TariqBinSleepin]

Here's some info one WHEN a dog is permissible to keep. Which in these days..i doubt it. Unless you're living like in the ghetto and need protection from thief's and wha not.


"The Permissibility of Keeping Hunting Dogs and Watch Dogs

Dogs which are kept for a purpose, such as hunting, guarding cattle or crops and the like are exempted from the above ruling.

In a hadith reported by both al-Bukhari and Muslim, the Prophet (peace be on him) said, Whoever keeps a dog except for hunting or for guarding crops or cattle will lose one large measure (qirat) of his reward each day.

On the basis of this hadith some jurists argue that the keeping of dogs as pets can be classified as makruh rather than haram, as the haram is absolutely prohibited without regard to whether there is a decrease in reward or not.

However, the prohibition of keeping dogs in the house does not mean that dogs may be treated cruelly or that they should be eradicated. Referring to the following verse of the Qur'an,

There is not an animal on the earth, nor a bird flying upon two wings, but comprise nations like yourselves. (6:38), the Prophet (peace be on him) said, "If dogs were not a nation (ummah) among nations, I would have ordered that they be killed.'' (Reported by Abu Daoud and al-Tirmidhi. (This was said by the Prophet following Jibril's remark that angels do not enter a house in which there is a dog. Trans.))


The Prophet (peace be on him) told his Companions a story concerning a man who found a dog in the desert panting and licking the dust due to thirst. The man went to a well, filled his shoes with water, and relieved the dog's thirst. Said the Messenger of Allah (peace be on him), "Allah appreciated this and forgave him all his sins." (Reported by al-Bukhari.) "

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[ibnishaq]

i can not understand why such great animals as dogs are haram.

that is going to bug me!

[TariqBinSleepin]

Originally Posted by gmk

Oh, maaaan..... I belong to a Muslim club where I live, and I asked this question once on an email list. What ensued was a long, PASSIONATE argument between these people:

"I can't believe how anyone could keep such a DISGUSTING ANIMAL in their HOUSE!! I don't understand how people can be so obviously CONFUSED and IGNORANT."

and these people:

"How DARE you criticize my DOG??? He's like my CHILD!!!!"

But when I asked someone to come up with Islamic justifications for their feelings (not just their opinions about dogs, which are totally dictated by cultural upbringing), no one said a word. I REALLY hope that isn't the case here.

Can someone come up with an ayat or authentic hadith about this, please?

There you go Sis. Besides dont you think this creature is Cuter lol

[gmk]

Originally Posted by TariqBinSleepin

There you go Sis.

Wow, that was fast, thanks!

[hijabihoodlum]

dogs are NOT haram. goodness gracious. why on earth would an *animal* be haram?!


people differ on whether you're allowed to keep dogs in the house (tariq's first post explains that). generally though, they shouldnt be kept just as indoor pets. part of it i think is an issue of hygiene- hair, saliva, etc. at the very least, your wudu is nullified when a dog licks you, and if you do have dogs in the house, the chances of you getting their saliva on yourself pretty much means that you'd never be able to keep wudu (and prayer would become a serious issue; that's not cool).

from all that, however, you get these cultures where muslims start believing that dogs are bad. i've seen a lot of abuse of dogs in countries like bangladesh and saudi arabia. and then when people immigrate to a western country like the US, they hold onto that dog-phobia and look at every person's dog like it did something wrong. i have a lot of friends who will look at a dog if it's anywhere near them and say "ew" (or they'll get scared). personally, i don't appreciate that kind of disdain for any of Allah's creation; i've met a lot of really cool dogs (ive met a lot of obnoxious ones too, but i usually blame the owners for not properly training them). i think farm dogs are the best because theyre just not the type to run and jump all over you- they know boundaries.

anyway, dogs are NOT haraam. keeping them as pets w/o a reason is questionable.

[Wolfn]

Dogs were made of the flesh of Abraham and the spit of Satan.

[TariqBinSleepin]

Originally Posted by hijabihoodlum

dogs are NOT haram. goodness gracious. why on earth would an *animal* be haram?!


people differ on whether you're allowed to keep dogs in the house (tariq's first post explains that). generally though, they shouldnt be kept just as indoor pets. part of it i think is an issue of hygiene- hair, saliva, etc. at the very least, your wudu is nullified when a dog licks you, and if you do have dogs in the house, the chances of you getting their saliva on yourself pretty much means that you'd never be able to keep wudu (and prayer would become a serious issue; that's not cool).

from all that, however, you get these cultures where muslims start believing that dogs are bad. i've seen a lot of abuse of dogs in countries like bangladesh and saudi arabia. and then when people immigrate to a western country like the US, they hold onto that dog-phobia and look at every person's dog like it did something wrong. i have a lot of friends who will look at a dog if it's anywhere near them and say "ew" (or they'll get scared). personally, i don't appreciate that kind of disdain for any of Allah's creation; i've met a lot of really cool dogs (ive met a lot of obnoxious ones too, but i usually blame the owners for not properly training them). i think farm dogs are the best because theyre just not the type to run and jump all over you- they know boundaries.

anyway, dogs are NOT haraam. keeping them as pets w/o a reason is questionable.

Oops...sorry. I didn't mean to say Haram. just forbidden. I mean when i see a cute dog i Say AWW and go wow what a cute dog, but i dont have a purpose for it.

[hijabihoodlum]

Originally Posted by Wolfn

Dogs were made of the flesh of Abraham and the spit of Satan.

where's this from?

[TariqBinSleepin]

Originally Posted by Wolfn

Dogs were made of the flesh of Abraham and the spit of Satan.

Where is this from? Can you show some..ya.. very interesting

[Variable]

Originally Posted by Wolfn

Dogs were made of the flesh of Abraham and the spit of Satan.

wth


I'd rather have my dog's spit on me than most humans' I know.

[Wolfn]

Originally Posted by hijabihoodlum

where's this from?

Originally Posted by TariqBinSleepin

Where is this from? Can you show some..ya.. very interesting

Originally Posted by Variable

wth


I'd rather have my dog's spit on me than most humans' I know.

Several Muslims on another forum told me, and I think someone from this site told me. Remember I made a thread saying I wanted a husky, and then the site crashed? On the husky thread, someone replied saying that dogs are made with the flesh of Abraham and spit of Satan. Which is why you must wash profusely after a dog licks you or your clothing or whatever.

I'm not sure if the quote is true, but I guess it would make sense.