[ibnishaq]

asalaamu alaikum,

I found this interesting article. But then I have heard from a friend that it is not true and that he saw a fatwa writing against it, because it is not what al qu'ran is for.

regular expression /(\S*Aa?y2aA?m\S*)/g ayyam=days
1 Aay2aAmAaN 2:80
1 Aay2aAma 45:14
2 Aay2aAmaNA 2:184 3:24
1 Aay2aAmi 10:102
18 Aay2aAmiN 2:184 2:185 2:196 2:203 3:41 5:89 7:54 10:3 11:7 11:65 22:28 25:59 32:4 41:10 41:16 50:38 57:4 69:7
1 AlAay2aAmi 69:24
1 AlAy2aAmu 3:140
1 biAay2aAmi 14:5
1 waAay2aAmaNA 34:18
3 yawmayni 2:203 41:9 41:12
= 27 + 3 duals = 30

regular expression /(\S*sch2?ahr\S*)/g schahr = month
2 Alsch2ahra 2:185 5:2
1 Alsch2ahri 2:217
1 Alsch2ahru 2:194
1 biAlsch2ahri 2:194
2 schahraNA 9:36 46:15
1 schahriN 97:3
1 schahru 2:185
2 schahruN 34:12 34:12
1 waAlsch2ahra 5:97
= 12

So basically, there is a claim for a miracle.. DayS is used 30 times (30 days in a month for most lunar) and month used 12 (12 months in islamic year.)


What do you guys think about this? Is it a miracle, probably just coincidence, what?

My friend told me that al qu'raan is not about this, and that an imam labeled it as merely coincidental, and that a book of allah is not about that. So I looked into the month, and it did equal 12. but with dayS you have to add 3 duals. the dual word is different (ayam and yawmain) so perhaps it is just coincidence?

idk.. it has been bugging me because some are calling it haraam and issuing fatwa's, while other sites are promoting it. Your thought?

[nooni]

ask a scholar

[Kona_Silat]

Originally Posted by ibnishaq

asalaamu alaikum,

I found this interesting article. But then I have heard from a friend that it is not true and that he saw a fatwa writing against it, because it is not what al qu'ran is for.



So basically, there is a claim for a miracle.. DayS is used 30 times (30 days in a month for most lunar) and month used 12 (12 months in islamic year.)


What do you guys think about this? Is it a miracle, probably just coincidence, what?

My friend told me that al qu'raan is not about this, and that an imam labeled it as merely coincidental, and that a book of allah is not about that. So I looked into the month, and it did equal 12. but with dayS you have to add 3 duals. the dual word is different (ayam and yawmain) so perhaps it is just coincidence?

idk.. it has been bugging me because some are calling it haraam and issuing fatwa's, while other sites are promoting it. Your thought?

Numerology is haram.

[ibnishaq]

Originally Posted by Kona_Silat

Numerology is haram.

do you have any proof from qu'ran/hadiths/fatwa's that say such?

[albano]

I am not sure if numerology is haram but I am sure is dump though. Why would people beleive in that kind of stuff?

[Struggle4Peace]

Originally Posted by albano

Why would people beleive in that kind of stuff?

Hey albano

Knowledge of numerology and astrology is such that no-one knows the authenticity of it but yet some choose to believe it, for human heart is inclined towards knowing the unseen.

[ibnishaq]

Originally Posted by nooni

ask a scholar

this is where it becomes problematic. shabir ally says that it is miraculous while billal phillips, and shaykh muhammad s al munajjid say it is NOT a miracle.

Originally Posted by albano

I am not sure if numerology is haram but I am sure is dump though. Why would people beleive in that kind of stuff?

well i did a search. and it did come out as claimedl
month came out as being said 12 times in the singular form
days came out as being said 27 times in plural and 3 times in dual, making 30 times
day came out as being 365 if one excludes idhin and kumu.(the "suffixes")

but i just wonder if allah swt put it in there or if it happened by chance!

[TariqBinSleepin]

That is pretty interesting tho, I'm gonna ask around. I know that Numerology to predict future is haram, but that might just be a coincidence, don't know.

[the_only_one]

In Sahih Bukhari,. there was somehting about numerology...i vaguely remember from my readings this summer..can't cite the exact hadith..'coz i dont have my stuff with me..but im sure if u loook it up, u'll find it inshaAllah.

[Rida]

I remember shaykh hamza Yusuf saying "Numerology leads to insanity"
I love the Shaykh (may Allah protect him)

S.P on Astrology
The Fiqh of Astronomy & Astrology

[the_only_one]

Originally Posted by Rida

I remember shaykh hamza Yusuf saying "Numerology leads to insanity"
I love the Shaykh (may Allah protect him)

S.P on Astrology
The Fiqh of Astronomy & Astrology

i believe there is a difference btwn numerology and astrology.

[Rida]

^^

I read the following on wiki and i assumed otherwise. My Bad.

Numerology refers to any of many systems, traditions or beliefs in a mystical or esoteric relationship between numbers and physical objects or living things.

Today, numerology is often associated with the occult, alongside astrology and similar divinatory arts. The term can also be used for those who, in the view of some observers, place excess faith in numerical patterns, even if those people don't practice traditional numerology.

......

People used to consider numbers as a language of the "gods" which people could learn to look into the future.

Wassalaam

[AceOfHearts]

Here is a list of the mathemetical miracles of the Qur'an:

Miracles of the Qur'an - Modern Science Reveals New Miracles of the Qur'an

One has to bear in mind that everything in the Qur'an has been revealed with true intent. There is no accident in the Qur'an. The Almighty is fully aware of the number of times He uses certain words. It is easy for Allah to repeat certain words up to a certain number of times without compromising what He has to say, as He is the All-Wise and Capable.

The mathematical miracle is another sign that the author of the Glorious Qur'an is indeed Allah, and not man. To deny it, would be intentionally taking up a blind perspective to a great miracle. In such a case, one versed with the Qur'an would immediately think of all the Verses that admonish those who are blind to the signs of Allah.

The purpose of the Qur'an is to be a guide in all matters for those who believe in Allah and wish to seek paradise. The mathematical miracle, is one of many seals proving that the Qur'an is the authentic words of Allah.

[Jamroll]

Best thing to do is to open up the Qur'an anywhere and then take the numbers of the surah and the ayat you come across.

Add them up, then divide by two, but multiply by five.

Then go outside and gather that many leaves from an oak tree and boil them in a pan.

Add wing of bat and eye of newt, and just a hint of garam masala.

Then drink this mixture, and sit down.

Soon you will know the secret of life, and you will received gold, frankincense and myrr, and all your dreams will come true. Also you might have slight indigestion because wing of bat'll do that. But don't sweat, just take some pepto bismol and you'll be alright.

[TariqBinSleepin]

Originally Posted by Jamroll

Best thing to do is to open up the Qur'an anywhere and then take the numbers of the surah and the ayat you come across.

Add them up, then divide by two, but multiply by five.

Then go outside and gather that many leaves from an oak tree and boil them in a pan.

Add wing of bat and eye of newt, and just a hint of garam masala.

Then drink this mixture, and sit down.

Soon you will know the secret of life, and you will received gold, frankincense and myrr, and all your dreams will come true. Also you might have slight indigestion because wing of bat'll do that. But don't sweat, just take some pepto bismol and you'll be alright.

ahaha lmfao. I would suggest taking Hajmola Instead of Pepto Bismol.