[ShiaHazara]

BERLIN - An Islamic militant group designated as a terror organization by the U.S. claimed responsibility for foiled bombings that targeted the American air base at Ramstein, as well as U.S. and Uzbek consulates in Germany, the government said Tuesday.

The Interior Ministry, which is responsible for police and internal security, said the Islamic Jihad Union made the announcement on the Internet and that government computer experts viewed it as genuine. Three men were arrested Tuesday on suspicion of planning massive bombings against U.S. and other facilities in Germany.

"In an Internet appearance, the Islamic Jihad Union has taken responsiblity for the foiled attacks in Germany and addresses the arrests of Sept. 4, 2007," the ministry statement said. "The attacks planned according to this for the end of 2007 were directed against the U.S. air base at Ramstein as well as U.S. and Uzbek consular facilities in Germany."

The attacks were aimed at pressing Germany to close its air base in Termez, Uzbekistan, the statement also said.

The Islamic Jihad Union is described by police and prosecutors as an offshoot of the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan, a militant group which had origins in that Central Asian country. The IJU has been designated a terrorist organization by the State Department; German prosecutors have said it is characterized by a "profound hatred of U.S. citizens."

According to the State Department, the group was responsible for coordinated bombings directed at the U.S. and Israeli embassies in July 2004 in the Uzbek capital, Tashkent. Members have been schooled in explosives by al-Qaida instructors and the group has ties to Osama bin Laden and fugitive Taliban leader Mullah Omar.

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why is it that converts are guided away and hate their own people?

[ChotooMotoo]

Originally Posted by ShiaHazara

why is it that converts are guided away and hate their own people?

Becuase many converts are enthusiastic about their new religion, and often quie gullible. They tend to follow the most religious looking people becuase they often dont' know any better. Unfortunately in these days, those who are most religious looking often don't have Islam in their hearts, and these poor enthusiastic converts are easily led astray. In some cases they are led so far astray that they later renounce their Islamic faith entirely.

[A_Muminah]

As-salaamu 'Alaykum,

Originally Posted by ChotooMotoo

Becuase many converts are enthusiastic about their new religion, and often quie gullible. They tend to follow the most religious looking people becuase they often dont' know any better. Unfortunately in these days, those who are most religious looking often don't have Islam in their hearts, and these poor enthusiastic converts are easily led astray. In some cases they are led so far astray that they later renounce their Islamic faith entirely.

Fear Allaah. Dont make general statement like that because of a few bad apples.

Baraka-Allaahu Feek.
-I just realized, no matter how many flowers and smily faces I add to my post to make it seem as nice I am really am, people never take it the way I mean it. I hope you do not get offended by my many posts.-

Was-Salaamu 'Alaykum Wa Rahmatullaah.

[ChotooMotoo]

Originally Posted by A_Muminah

As-salaamu 'Alaykum,


Fear Allaah. Dont make general statement like that because of a few bad apples.

Baraka-Allaahu Feek.
-I just realized, no matter how many flowers and smily faces I add to my post to make it seem as nice I am really am, people never take it the way I mean it. I hope you do not get offended by my many posts.-

Was-Salaamu 'Alaykum Wa Rahmatullaah.

I'm not offended at all. I'm just speaking from experience as a convert, and as one who has seen many others convert, go to "extreme" and then leave the faith. There are some genuinely pious people out there who are also religious looking, but they are not nearly as vocal as the religious looking people who are not pious. New converts need something to cling to, and sometimes the very vocal religious looking bad apples bring new converts under their wings and teach them un-islamic things. These poor kids have no idea that they aren't being told the whole story, and so often blindly follow whatever they are told. I've seen new converts being told that they have to take up the veil immediately (face veil) and quit their jobs once they convert to Islam, and that they must get married immediately or there will be fitnah and they will go to Hell. I've seen lots of cases of converts going to fast too soon becuasee certain individuals push them too hard, and then they leave Islam entirely. Recent well publicized cases of converts being brainwashed as terrorists are another example. It's all the same phenomenon. Converts trust people who look religious, and sometimes those people look religious just to lead people astray.

Another thing I've seen happen is converts not being accepted by the Muslim community becuase they are not Muslim enough. To some people, being born Muslim and speaking Arabic makes you automatically a better Muslim than a convert, and a convert can never hope to be as good a Muslim as you. On the flip side of that is the pressure converts feel becuase some people will tell them that they are the best Muslims becuase they accepted Islam, whilst born Muslims are only following the religion of their forefathers. In both cases, the convert can feel judged by other Muslims, and feel that no matter what they do, they are always being judged by other Muslims. A person can only do so much.