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Website claims Bin Laden will release message to mark 9/11


Sarah Knapton
Friday September 7, 2007
The Guardian


An image purportedly of Osama bin Laden appears on the as-Sabah website with an announcement that he is to appear in a new video. Photograph: PA



Osama bin Laden, the al-Qaida leader, will release a video addressing the American people on the sixth anniversary of the September 11 attacks, an Islamist website reported last night.
The announcement appeared on a website where al-Qaida's media arm, as-Sahab, frequently posts messages. It was illustrated with a still photo from the video, showing bin Laden addressing the camera, his beard apparently dyed black

The tape is expected to be released in the next 72 hours. A banner for the forthcoming address read: "Soon, God willing, a videotape from the lion sheikh Osama bin Laden, God preserve him."

If genuine, the tape will be the first time Bin Laden has appeared in a video broadcast since October 2004 when a tape was obtained by al-Jazeera shortly before the US presidential elections. In that address Bin Laden said America could avoid another 9/11 style attack if it stopped threatening Muslims.

Since then, there have been a number of audiotape messages from the al-Qaida leader but the last came in July 2006, when he praised the slain al-Qaida in Iraq leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi and welcomed his successor. He also vowed al-Qaida would fight the US anywhere in the world .

Yesterday's announcement, which was picked up by the Site institute and IntelCentre, two US-based groups that monitor jihadi websites, was signed by as-Sahab, which is known to put out notifications one to three days before a new video is posted on the internet.

Bin Laden has taunted the US in a series of video messages released since the attacks on the World Trade Centre in New York. In October 2001, the Saudi-born multi-millionaire was shown in a video praising God for the strikes that toppled the twin towers. "America was hit by God in one of its softest spots," he said.

With the silence from Bin Laden over the past year, the organisation's number two, Egyptian-born Ayman al-Zawahiri, has been regularly issuing videos and audiotapes. Last year, al-Zawahiri called on Muslims to attack the US for jailing militant cleric Sheikh Omar Abdel Rahman.

Bin Laden and Zawahiri are believed to be hiding in the border area between Afghanistan and Pakistan. US-led forces have been searching for Bin Laden in 2001. In Washington, officials had no immediate comment on the announcement of an impending video.

The Foreign Office also declined to comment

[Jamroll]

This'll be interesting. I wonder how they're going to pull this off.

[FMROMMEL]

Originally Posted by Jamroll

This'll be interesting. I wonder how they're going to pull this off.

Who are the "they" you are refering to?

[Jamroll]

Originally Posted by FMROMMEL

Who are the "they" you are refering to?

US government and other interested parties.

[A_Muminah]

As-Salaamu 'Alaykum,

It was illustrated with a still photo from the video, showing bin Laden addressing the camera, his beard apparently dyed black

lol, cool

I wonder why he's decided to release a tape this anniversary and what he will say.

Whatever it is, I bet the US government is already biting their nails.

Was-Salaamu 'Alaykum Wa Rahmatullaahi Wa Barakaatuh

[Ilikemyscarf]

Why didn't he release a video last year? Does this have anything to do with the upcoming presidential elections of next year? This is all getting so old and played out.

[Arabesque]

When's the US elections happening?

[A_Muminah]

As-salaamu 'Alaykum Wa Rahmatullaah,

November 2008 but all of the campaigns have already begun touring.

Was-Salaamu 'Alaykum Wa Rahmatullaah

[Arabesque]

According to al-Jazeera, the US already has a copy of the tape. Before it's "official release". They have it and not al-Jazeera? Can you believe it? Yaay!

May Allah have mercy on Sheikh bin Laden, and make his grave spacious like a garden of paradise - Ameen.

[Kaminyu]

Based entirely on appearance, I'm having a very hard time believing that this person:



Is the same as this one, from this new video:



Perhaps the film crew should get whoever makes the 'Terror Videos' to help them digitally alter these Osama ones, so that the actor actually looks like Osama, instead of like some guy trying to look like him.

Also, for their next Osama video, they need to keep in mind that it is haraam in Islam to dye the hair pure black, while it is sunnah to dye grey or white hair yellow or red, with katam or henna.

[A_Muminah]

As-Salaam 'Alaykum Wa Rahmatullaah,

Originally Posted by Kaminyu

Based entirely on appearance, I'm having a very hard time believing that this person:

Looks like the same person to me except the color of the hair. *Ahhhh* He has perfect eyebrows.

Perhaps the film crew should get whoever makes the 'Terror Videos' to help them digitally alter these Osama ones, so that the actor actually looks like Osama, instead of like some guy trying to look like him.

Also, for their next Osama video, they need to keep in mind that it is haraam in Islam to dye the hair pure black, while it is sunnah to dye grey or white hair yellow or red, with katam or henna.

lol, I think it just looks black in the video. I doubt it is actually a pure black color.

Btw - How is black dye haraam in Islam? Please provide your proof.
Im not a guy so I dont need to worry about it but there are different stances on the coloring of the hair black during the time of war.

Was-Salaamu 'Alaykum Wa Rahmatullaahi Wa Barakaatuh

[nooni]

^ HAHAHAHHAHAH they dyed his hair.

[bluey]

The ''transcript'': Bin Laden urges Americans to convert - Yahoo! News

[TrentReznor858]

its not even the same guy!!!

[Kaminyu]

Originally Posted by A_Muminah

As-Salaam 'Alaykum Wa Rahmatullaah,

Looks like the same person to me except the color of the hair. *Ahhhh* He has perfect eyebrows.

Wa alaiykum salaam,

The eyes and the mouth are different (mainly the eyes). Also, the bottom of the nose is a little too wide.

lol, I think it just looks black in the video. I doubt it is actually a pure black color.

Probably. But it does seem strange that he would dye it that color, instead of preferred colors like yellow or red.

Btw - How is black dye haraam in Islam? Please provide your proof.
Im not a guy so I dont need to worry about it but there are different stances on the coloring of the hair black during the time of war.

Was-Salaamu 'Alaykum Wa Rahmatullaahi Wa Barakaatuh

Okay:

Jaabir ibn ‘Abdullah reported that Abu Quhaafah was brought on the day of the conquest of Mecca, and his head and beard were white like "thaghaamah" (a plant whose flowers and fruit are white). The Messenger of Allah (Peace & Blessings of Allah be upon Him) said: "Change this with something, but avoid black."

(Sahih Muslim, no. 3962)

Ibn ‘Abbas (may Allah be pleased with him) said:

The Messenger of Allah (Peace & Blessings of Allah be upon Him) said: "At the end of time there will be people who will dye their hair black like the crops of pigeons. They will never even smell the fragrance of Paradise."

(Sunan Abu Dawud, 4212; al-Nasaa’i, 5075, Ahmad, Sahih al-Jaami‘, no. 8153).

Wa salaam