[PhDGirl]

Originally Posted by Timbit

Ew, how fun is that? You might as well just not get married then.

Ilikemyscarf: Yep, I agree. It's a very important subject.
My parents never talk about sex either, but I just educated myself through... I dunno, the media, friends, Health class. Plus I read a lot.
And my parents know I know everything but we still don't talk about it.

Same with my younger siblings. My parents just sign the forms that the schools send to ask permission to teach you Health, so they know what we're learning but they've never sat us down and discussed it with us.

That's because they're desi and prefer to pretend it doesn't exist .

Back to the original article, I think one reason she has the callin show is because people might be too shy to go and see her in her office or might not be able to afford it. So, she can provide an anonymous mechanism to answer questions while providing general education at the same time.

[nooni]

Originally Posted by zakk

I didn't side with anyone. I simply pointed out the fault in your post.

You seem to have a tendency to speak condescendingly to people, both in this thread and others, and it is very unbecoming. You don't "simply disagree" with people; you act superior and your tone reflects that.

Quite frankly, I'm not concerned about your attempting to paint me as less than sincere, because I know what I am better than you do. But why don't you act on your own words and "learn more" about what the character of a Muslim is, and what exactly is the attitude in Islam towards suspicion, aspersions, sarcasm, and the like. And I highly doubt you'll find daleel that supports the general tone of your posts, as opposed to the content.

very well said.

Originally Posted by Ilikemyscarf

They should start teaching sex ed. in schools with gender separated classes, of course.

that is an excellent idea. hire people who noe about the guidelines of sex and sexuality in islam and in general to teach these thigns to teachers. then have seperated classrooms so that the teachers can teach it inshallah the right way to the students. cause you cant just tell teachers to say things since many times the teachers themselves are culturally driven.

[TrentReznor858]

I am praying that this thread is a joke, and that these people arent serious about it being MAKROH to look at your WIFES ourah. If it isnt, then I must add this point to my list of reasons why Allah has abandoned his ummah.

[AceOfHearts]

Who invented the term 'makrooh' into Islam anyway? Need I ask.

[ameen]

Originally Posted by TrentReznor858

I am praying that this thread is a joke, and that these people arent serious about it being MAKROH to look at your WIFES ourah. If it isnt, then I must add this point to my list of reasons why Allah has abandoned his ummah.

salam,

you should also add it to your list of reasons why Allah didn't authorise Hadith.

[A_Muminah]

As-Salaamu 'Alaykum,

May Allaah guide the three of you, Aameen.

Was-Salaamu 'Alaykum Wa Rahmatullaah.

[TrentReznor858]

Originally Posted by A_Muminah

As-Salaamu 'Alaykum,

May Allaah guide the three of you, Aameen.

Was-Salaamu 'Alaykum Wa Rahmatullaah.

I cant believe people are that stupid, to believe you can have sex with their wives/husbands BUT NOT LOOK AT THE PARTS THEY ARE USING!!! ARE YOU SERIOUS????

[A_Muminah]

As-Salaamu 'Alaykum Wa Rahmatullaah,

Originally Posted by TrentReznor858

I cant believe people are that stupid, to believe you can have sex with their wives/husbands BUT NOT LOOK AT THE PARTS THEY ARE USING!!! ARE YOU SERIOUS????

I never said anything in regards to that. Please refrain from referring to me as 'stupid' again.

Was-Salaamu 'Alaykum Wa Rahmatullaahi Wa Barakaatuh

[psychoteddybear]

I just read through some of the posts...I think the main point here is that all things should be done in moderation. I personally think it's unrealistic to not look at your spouse's awrah during the course of your marriage. What if, God forbid, they became incapable of caring for themselves? You'd have to care for them (that being the right thing)...right? And that would mean bathing them...come now.

Seriously.

In the end, our faith is about MODERATION. I think essentially some of these hadiths and whatever are meant to dissuade people from becoming fixated on sex and stuff..because, let's face it, the few bad apples in this world ruin it for the rest of us saner people. So because of them, we have to be mindful of all things.

But if you think about it...it's a good thing. BE MODERATE! Don't stare for hours at your spouse's awrah....enjoy them, as they will enjoy you, but don't become an obsessed fool. I think ultimately that would be the bottom line.

After all, relations with your spouse...is one of the few things in life we can derive pleasure from in a halal way..and it's a good thing.

wa salam

[AceOfHearts]

Originally Posted by psychoteddybear

I just read through some of the posts...I think the main point here is that all things should be done in moderation. I personally think it's unrealistic to not look at your spouse's awrah during the course of your marriage. What if, God forbid, they became incapable of caring for themselves? You'd have to care for them (that being the right thing)...right? And that would mean bathing them...come now.

Seriously.

In the end, our faith is about MODERATION. I think essentially some of these hadiths and whatever are meant to dissuade people from becoming fixated on sex and stuff..because, let's face it, the few bad apples in this world ruin it for the rest of us saner people. So because of them, we have to be mindful of all things.

But if you think about it...it's a good thing. BE MODERATE! Don't stare for hours at your spouse's awrah....enjoy them, as they will enjoy you, but don't become an obsessed fool. I think ultimately that would be the bottom line.

After all, relations with your spouse...is one of the few things in life we can derive pleasure from in a halal way..and it's a good thing.

wa salam

That is a nice way to brush the issue under the carpet.

[Musashi]

Asallamu 'alaikum wa rahmatulLahi wa barakatuh

Let's do it this way then.

Wrap yourselves in sheets, one for each, with a hole poked through 'em. There. Fumble around blindly until something goes somewhere. Problem solved. You won't even have to look at eachoter. :3

[psychoteddybear]

Originally Posted by AceOfHearts

That is a nice way to brush the issue under the carpet.

How am I brushing the "issue" under the carpet, pray tell?
And what exactly is this "issue" that you've worked yourself up for?

[Kona_Silat]

Originally Posted by AceOfHearts

That is a nice way to brush the issue under the carpet.

Hey man, doesn't Quran talk about moderation????

[AceOfHearts]

Originally Posted by psychoteddybear

How am I brushing the "issue" under the carpet, pray tell?
And what exactly is this "issue" that you've worked yourself up for?

The issue is that not looking at your spouse's private parts is a 100% valid Sunni teaching. It means just looking for a second is MAKRUH (Disliked).

The 'brushing it under the carpet' bit is saying it means staring for hours when this is not what is being taught. You said:

Originally Posted by psychoteddybear

"In the end, our faith is about MODERATION. I think essentially some of these hadiths and whatever are meant to dissuade people from becoming fixated on sex and stuff...........Don't stare for hours at your spouse's awrah"

They mean even looking for a second at your spouses private parts is MAKRUH, not "staring for hours". You used the concept of moderation to do away with this Sunni teaching.

Thats what I meant by 'brushing it under the carpet'

[AceOfHearts]

Originally Posted by Kona_Silat

Hey man, doesn't Quran talk about moderation????

This is not to do with "moderation". It is about what the true religion says - what the Qur'anic religion says.

'Moderation' is a very user definable word and I will not use it here. In this context, it can be used to mean cut the Sunni teaching in half and take the middle path while discarding the other half, much like phsychoteddybear was doing.

But to a sincere believer this would not be the correct thing to do. Since he searches for the absolute truth, and he would want to stick with whatever the truth is to the best of his ability and to the full.