[Timbit]

Whoa, I've never seen Zakk yell at anybody before. I'm scared.

Anyway...

What's wrong with hippies? We're cool.

And if you can't see your spouse's private parts, then how do you do anything? That would kinda suck.

[WickedSam]

I've never seen Zakk like that either. Niiice.

However, hippies can be cool. But once they get dirty (and this is not only true for hippies, but everyone in general), they start to smell. And I can't be around that smell. But clean hippies are always cool.

Timbit, you do it like most people. With the lights off.

Wasalaamzzzz

[AceOfHearts]

Originally Posted by IbnMardhiyah

and you obviously are greatly disturbed whenever you see people discussing a topic and referencing the Sunnah.

You mean spreading the Prophet's bedroom secrets to the world...that is if they are true to begin with: "stamina of a 100 men", what a nonsensical backbiting hearsay!

"We have permitted the enemies of every Prophet, human and Jinn devils, to inspire in each other with fancy words in order to deceive. Had your Lord willed, they would not have done it. You shall disregard them and their fabrications." [Qur'an 6:112]

[AceOfHearts]

Originally Posted by Aryan_

No they don't. The koran is clear enough - no part instructs men to marry their slave girls. Don't be such a mangina.

Also have a look at Verse 24:32.

I have already referenced Verse 4:25 which clearly states for all that you must be married to "ma malakat aymanukum" and not fornicate or commit adultary with them which the ulamas have legalised.

Is it not time to admit some where your ulamas have gone wrong and accept the clear Verses that are shown to you? All of you?

"We have brought them a Scripture: WE HAVE EXPLAINED IT on the basis of knowledge - as GUIDANCE and MERCY for those who believe." [Qur’an 7:52]

[Aryan_]

Originally Posted by zakk

I didn't side with anyone. I simply pointed out the fault in your post.

You seem to have a tendency to speak condescendingly to people, both in this thread and others, and it is very unbecoming. You don't "simply disagree" with people; you act superior and your tone reflects that.

Quite frankly, I'm not concerned about your attempting to paint me as less than sincere, because I know what I am better than you do. But why don't you act on your own words and "learn more" about what the character of a Muslim is, and what exactly is the attitude in Islam towards suspicion, aspersions, sarcasm, and the like. And I highly doubt you'll find daleel that supports the general tone of your posts, as opposed to the content.

Meoow

Originally Posted by AceOfHearts

Also have a look at Verse 24:32.

I have already referenced Verse 4:25 which clearly states for all that you must be married to "ma malakat aymanukum" and not fornicate or commit adultary with them which the ulamas have legalised.

Is it not time to admit some where your ulamas have gone wrong and accept the clear Verses that are shown to you? All of you?

"We have brought them a Scripture: WE HAVE EXPLAINED IT on the basis of knowledge - as GUIDANCE and MERCY for those who believe." [Qur’an 7:52]

Verse 24:32: 24:And marry such of you as are solitary and the pious of your slaves and maid- servants. If they be poor, Allah will enrich them of His bounty. Allah is of ample means, Aware.

It only says to marry the pious of your slave girls. Since all of my slave girls are kaffir, I will not be giving them up.

[AceOfHearts]

Originally Posted by Aryan_

Meoow


Verse 24:32: 24:And marry such of you as are solitary and the pious of your slaves and maid- servants. If they be poor, Allah will enrich them of His bounty. Allah is of ample means, Aware.

It only says to marry the pious of your slave girls. Since all of my slave girls are kaffir, I will not be giving them up.

So that means you can fornicate with them and commit adultary?

It is clear you have no intention to follow the Qur'an, comming up with pathetic excuses to permit sex with slaves.

[IbnMardhiyah]

Originally Posted by AceOfHearts

You mean spreading the Prophet's bedroom secrets to the world...that is if they are true to begin with: "stamina of a 100 men", what a nonsensical backbiting hearsay!

The ones that come from saheeh ahaadith are verified.

And no one in this thread was talking about what his stamina was like or how many of his wives he slept with in one night.

You really have this sad habit of bring up straw-man objections and trying to impose them upon the discussion. You begin objecting to stuff that no one was talking about, stuff that no one even mentioned in the discussion.

You just might be better off sitting in a corner and mumbling and objecting to yourself, okay?

[ameen]

Originally Posted by IbnMardhiyah

And no one in this thread was talking about what his stamina was like or how many of his wives he slept with in one night.

salam,

Did you somehow miss this comment, or do you deliberately skip through the constant blasphemy posted by your Sunni friends? :

Originally Posted by Songbird

Our Prophet's Haya was compared to that of 40 secluded virgins, and yet conversely, he would have intimate relations, sometimes, with all his wives [RA] in one night due to the strength and stamina that he possessed
mashaAllah!

[IbnMardhiyah]

Originally Posted by ameen

salam,

Did you somehow miss this comment, or do you deliberately skip through the constant blasphemy posted by your Sunni friends? :

Missed it, since I have Songbird on ignore.

[ChotooMotoo]

Originally Posted by IbnMardhiyah

Missed it, since I have Songbird on ignore.

I actually find it kind of ammusing that ameen would point out Songbird's post, since she is the one complaining about the lack of haya in the thread.

[Aryan_]

Originally Posted by AceOfHearts

So that means you can fornicate with them and commit adultary?

No, because Allah and the Koran recognises concubinage as a way for man and woman to bond. Calling that adultery is like calling marriage or polygamy adultery.

Originally Posted by AceOfHearts

It is clear you have no intention to follow the Qur'an, comming up with pathetic excuses to permit sex with slaves.

When you read something in the koran you don't agree with, do you just decide to ignore it?

[ChotooMotoo]

Originally Posted by Aryan_

No, because Allah and the Koran recognises concubinage as a way for man and woman to bond. Calling that adultery is like calling marriage or polygamy adultery.

When you read something in the koran you don't agree with, do you just decide to ignore it?

I think he doesn't understand the Islamic requirements in regards to slaves rights. When he thinks of Slaves, he thinks of white people whipping black people in the middle of cotton fields.

[Ilikemyscarf]

They should start teaching sex ed. in schools with gender separated classes, of course. They should also encourage parents in the masajids to teach and educate their children about this as they grow up. Give them 'the talk' so to speak as is done in the West. Speaking about sex is so taboo in many eastern families and that is of no benefit to the children. Like Shadha said, if they don't get it from home, they will get it from elsewhere and the blame will be put on them instead of the parents, whose fault it really is. My parents never told me anything about this topic and here I am, 19 years old, with a sexual intelligence of a 10 year old. Hell, I bet even a 10 year old knows more than me. Being in the dark about this is not going to help you. It's better to get educated. I am currently in Human Sexuality class. Yay me. I am not ashamed to admit it either, . Better late than never.

[Timbit]

Originally Posted by WickedSam

I've never seen Zakk like that either. Niiice.

However, hippies can be cool. But once they get dirty (and this is not only true for hippies, but everyone in general), they start to smell. And I can't be around that smell. But clean hippies are always cool.

Timbit, you do it like most people. With the lights off.

Wasalaamzzzz

Ew, how fun is that? You might as well just not get married then.

Ilikemyscarf: Yep, I agree. It's a very important subject.
My parents never talk about sex either, but I just educated myself through... I dunno, the media, friends, Health class. Plus I read a lot.
And my parents know I know everything but we still don't talk about it.

Same with my younger siblings. My parents just sign the forms that the schools send to ask permission to teach you Health, so they know what we're learning but they've never sat us down and discussed it with us.