[Songbird]

Originally Posted by zakk

And why not answer his question instead of attacking his maturity level? You were the one who cast aspersions on the veracity of his argument in the first place; if you still disagree you should at least provide a counter-argument instead of resorting to insults.

Actually sis, I bought in to work today my copy of Ash-Shifa and the ahadith to support the argument that it's Makruh [not Haraam] to look at your spouse's Awrah.

Instead of choosing to side with your friend, you should ask me sincerely, rather than simply take sides because I criticized your friend. But for some reason, I do not detect sincerity in your 'voice'.

I called IbnM, immature because I only sense facetiousness in his voice - most especially his last reply to me. I'm sorry, but I call them as I see them.

But you should ask yourself this young lady: are you on this thread to learn more, or is your contribution here merely to show solidarity for board member?

I would be more than happy to show you what the section on modesty says [page 60 - 61] but I'm also not one to waste my time with someone simply acting as a cheerleader on the side.

Btw I never cast aspersions on his argument. I simply disagreed with him and then asked him to provide some daleel.

[Sea_of_Roses]

Originally Posted by Jamroll

I think couples should put sunglasses on and then turn the lights off before they engage in any intimacy.

Also they should wear over gloves.

And those protective surgical masks. You can never be too careful, you know.

This is true, cooties happen to be very contagious.

[iTz_NoT_Me_iTzZu]

what a buncha pompous windbags

[zakk]

Originally Posted by Songbird

Actually sis, I bought in to work today my copy of Ash-Shifa and the ahadith to support the argument that it's Makruh [not Haraam] to look at your spouse's Awrah.

Instead of choosing to side with your friend, you should ask me sincerely, rather than simply take sides because I criticized your friend. But for some reason, I do not detect sincerity in your 'voice'.

I called IbnM, immature because I only sense facetiousness in his voice - most especially his last reply to me. I'm sorry, but I call them as I see them.

But you should ask yourself this young lady: are you on this thread to learn more, or is your contribution here merely to show solidarity for board member?

I would be more than happy to show you what the section on modesty says [page 60 - 61] but I'm also not one to waste my time with someone simply acting as a cheerleader on the side.

Btw I never cast aspersions on his argument. I simply disagreed with him and then asked him to provide some daleel.

I didn't side with anyone. I simply pointed out the fault in your post.

You seem to have a tendency to speak condescendingly to people, both in this thread and others, and it is very unbecoming. You don't "simply disagree" with people; you act superior and your tone reflects that.

Quite frankly, I'm not concerned about your attempting to paint me as less than sincere, because I know what I am better than you do. But why don't you act on your own words and "learn more" about what the character of a Muslim is, and what exactly is the attitude in Islam towards suspicion, aspersions, sarcasm, and the like. And I highly doubt you'll find daleel that supports the general tone of your posts, as opposed to the content.

[Arabesque]

Originally Posted by zakk

I didn't side with anyone. I simply pointed out the fault in your post.

You seem to have a tendency to speak condescendingly to people, both in this thread and others, and it is very unbecoming. You don't "simply disagree" with people; you act superior and your tone reflects that.

Quite frankly, I'm not concerned about your attempting to paint me as less than sincere, because I know what I am better than you do. But why don't you act on your own words and "learn more" about what the character of a Muslim is, and what exactly is the attitude in Islam towards suspicion, aspersions, sarcasm, and the like. And I highly doubt you'll find daleel that supports the general tone of your posts, as opposed to the content.

I don't think it's fair to lecture Songbird on sarcasm, for many on this forum are guilty of that. Many speak with a "holier than thou" attitude, even in this thread. A simple "I disagree, because" is not what most of the posters here have done, so why pick on Songbird only? Just coz she's a freshie doesn't mean she's going to get ragged and bullied by other members, and especially mods. And I don't know what happened to giving naseeha in private?!

[IbnMardhiyah]

Lets us all just drop it for the sake of Allaah and move along ....

[A_Muminah]

As-Salaamu 'Alaykum Wa Rahmatullaah,

Lets all hold hands and spread some love . . . (the halal-way of course) . . .

Was-Salaamu 'Alaykum Wa Rahmatullaah

[zakk]

Originally Posted by Arabesque

I don't think it's fair to lecture Songbird on sarcasm, for many on this forum are guilty of that. Many speak with a "holier than thou" attitude, even in this thread. A simple "I disagree, because" is not what most of the posters here have done, so why pick on Songbird only? Just coz she's a freshie doesn't mean she's going to get ragged and bullied by other members, and especially mods. And I don't know what happened to giving naseeha in private?!

I completely fail to see how you took my posts as bullying. And I know you don't read all my posts, but maybe you should before accusing me of singling people out, as this is not my first time advising people on manners on this board (as is one of my duties). Anyway, I don't think the "everyone is doing it" thing excuses people.

And yeah, what DID happen to giving naseeha in private, since it is obviously something you value. As well you should, since you are correct in this matter.


Anyway, I'm done here.

[Arabesque]

Originally Posted by zakk

I completely fail to see how you took my posts as bullying. And I know you don't read all my posts, but maybe you should before accusing me of singling people out, as this is not my first time advising people on manners on this board (as is one of my duties). Anyway, I don't think the "everyone is doing it" thing excuses people.

And yeah, what DID happen to giving naseeha in private, since it is obviously something you value. As well you should, since you are correct in this matter.


Anyway, I'm done here.

I wasn't giving you naseeha. I was asking you about it. It's not my place to advise anyone.

Plus, I was pointing out that others also engage in the manners you clearly dislike. If that's the board attitude, and that's how people like to discuss issues, then why not leave it as it is?

[Arabesque]

Originally Posted by IbnMardhiyah

Lets us all just drop it for the sake of Allaah and move along ....

I just saw this.

Alright my apologies, given for the sake of Allah, only!!

[zakk]

Sigh. I don't know what board attitude has to do with this. If we are discussing Islam, then we should try to do it in an Islamic manner. Me too. InshaAllah khair.

Anywayyyyyy back to topic.

[iTz_NoT_Me_iTzZu]

Originally Posted by A_Muminah

As-Salaamu 'Alaykum Wa Rahmatullaah,

Lets all hold hands and spread some love . . . (the halal-way of course) . . .

Was-Salaamu 'Alaykum Wa Rahmatullaah

You sound like a dirty hippie.


Anyway, I agree with IbnM. Let it go.

[A_Muminah]

As-Salaamu 'Alaykum,

Originally Posted by iTz_NoT_Me_iTzZu

You sound like a dirty hippie.

Ouch.

Wa'Alaykum As-Salaam Wa Rahmatullaah

[iTz_NoT_Me_iTzZu]

Originally Posted by A_Muminah

As-Salaamu 'Alaykum,


Ouch.

Wa'Alaykum As-Salaam Wa Rahmatullaah

aww i was just kidding


and theres nothing wrong with being a dirty hippie

[Variable]

Originally Posted by iTz_NoT_Me_iTzZu

aww i was just kidding


and theres nothing wrong with being a dirty hippie

Friggn hippies. I don't think your a hippy Muminah

One time my awrah was showing in public. But it wasn't my fault, because I didn't think it was public. I was behind some bushes trying to get changed, when a group of Christian fundamentalists came walking along... and all I could do was stand there. They freaked out and ran away