Killing for religion is justified, say third of Muslim students

[dreamdeferred]

roberto said

I'm not an American and I do not live in America, so I don’t know.

Doesn't matter....the points made were in relation to your silly notions that killing for state involves "the will of the people" to authorize it. This is simply not true.

The situation in the UK was, I think, about 60% for

Source please. I seem to recall the largest protest in the UK's history in the lead up to the Iraq war.

I repeat I am not an America,however as a general comment government are given authority to make decision and take actions, if subsequently a government persists in unpopular action they will be defeated at the next election, other than for referendums this has to be, for practical reason, accepted

This is true in a highly general and theoretical sense only.

I am awake, thank you. My response is as above

You're fast asleep.

A pointless and abrasive comment

Nothing I've ever said to you matches the abrasiveness of your consistently absurd posting history.

[roberto]

dreamdeferred said

Doesn't matter....the points made were in relation to your silly notions that killing for state involves "the will of the people" to authorize it. This is simply not true.

Source please. I seem to recall the largest protest in the UK's history in the lead up to the Iraq war.



This is true in a highly general and theoretical sense only.

You're fast asleep.

Nothing I've ever said to you matches the abrasiveness of your consistently absurd posting history.

You are obvious looking for an exchange of abuse, find someone else, I’m not interested

[sixpakistan]

roberto said

No, it is as I wrote " it's not just a case of lots of people, it is a democratic government exercising the authority given to it by the people"

So the will of the representatives of the people justifies killing, then?

roberto said

Heck man, we are not on personal terms.

So why are you speculating about my occupation, then?

roberto said

BTW, Using English, as distinct from American English, the question would have been:

Out of curiosity, what do you do for a living,?

Can you explain what was grammatically wrong with my sentence? If you do that, I'll point out what's grammatically wrong with all your sentences.

Is there anyone on this board that thinks you're not pathetically stupid?

[roberto]

[QUOTE=sixpakistan;196375]

So the will of the representatives of the people justifies killing, then?

The authority for the killing of people is vested in laws produced by democratic process

So why are you speculating about my occupation, then?

Most cabbies where I live are Pakistanis; from your writings I thought you fitted the picture.

I
Can you explain what was grammatically wrong with my sentence? If you do that, I'll point out what's grammatically wrong with all your sentences.

Tut, tut, how touchy, I did not suggest there was anything wrong, just a difference.

You seem to have an inferiority complex

Is there anyone on this board that thinks you're not pathetically stupid?

Woops you’re showing that inferiority complex again.

[Zeinab]

roberto said

I'm not an American and I do not live in America, so I don’t know.

The situation in the UK was, I think, about 60% for

I repeat I am not an America,however as a general comment government are given authority to make decision and take actions, if subsequently a government persists in unpopular action they will be defeated at the next election, other than for referendums this has to be, for practical reason, accepted

I am awake, thank you. My response is as above

A pointless and abrasive comment

Regarding your point above Roberto, do you really think that the MP's who voted in favour of the Iraq War did so because that's what their constituents wanted?

There should have been a referendum of some sort, or at least an honest, open and public debate about the issue - I mean, it was about a WAR, about going to bomb another country into oblivion, regardless of any noble intentions. Did 3 million people marching against the war not mean anything?!

What complete and utter nonsense...most of the Commons is made up of elitist, middle class white guys who could care less about what 'the people wanted'.

The majority of MPs in the UK do NOT represent the people - they're more interested in petty party politics, and party loyalty which is why we have some of the most nonsensical policies [42 day detention is another example] And elections...psh, when one's needed both parties cower out of standing up to the mark...

[sixpakistan]

Roberto: In all seriousness, do you consider yourself to be intelligent? If so, why?

[roberto]

[QUOTE=Zeinab;196530]

Regarding your point above Roberto, do you really think that the MP's who voted in favour of the Iraq War did so because that's what their constituents wanted?

Well if I am right about the 60% of the population being supportive of the action and assuming an even distribution, then a majority did vote as per their constituents’ wishes.

There should have been a referendum of some sort, or at least an honest, open and public debate about the issue - I mean, it was about a WAR, about going to bomb another country into oblivion, regardless of any noble intentions. Did 3 million people marching against the war not mean anything?!

Yes you have a point re referendums for major matters, however there is a very big risk that many will vote, for many different reasons, out of ignorance of the facts

What complete and utter nonsense...most of the Commons is made up of elitist, middle class white guys who could care less about what 'the people wanted'.

Okay so that’s your opinion, do you have the facts to support it?

The majority of MPs in the UK do NOT represent the people - they're more interested in petty party politics, and party loyalty which is why we have some of the most nonsensical policies [42 day detention is another example] And elections...psh, when one's needed both parties cower out of standing up to the mark..

So the proposed 42 days detention is just because MP's are only concerned about party politics, well I find that puzzling.


It is surprising that you limit your comment on the 42 day lock-up to calling it nonsense, when it is on one hand, a threat to our democratic right of innocent until proven guilty and on the other a necessary sacrifice of that freedom for the greater freedom of life.

This thread is about a report of radicalisation among Muslim communities and has therefore a direct bearing on the increasing need of tighter security and with it the difficulty of appropriate balanced between maintaining freedom yet providing protection against attack.


If you wish to have a discussion on democratic government then okay, why not start a thread, a comparison with the governments currently operating in Muslims countries would I sure be most interesting

[roberto]

sixpakistan said

Roberto: In all seriousness, do you consider yourself to be intelligent? If so, why?

Sixpack, I’m puzzled, if you are not suffering from an inferiority complex why is it that you are such an arrogant, patronising, pretentious buffoon. You are obliviously not very bright, but that alone would not account for your most unpleasant personality.

I like to help, search back is there something that happen in your developing years that could account for your distorted personality?

[psychoteddybear]

roberto said

I posted an article from a UK news paper, the presentation was not mine. If you and others disagree with the facts presented then refute them, if you think that perhaps at least some are true then take note and act if you think you should.

It is important for both Muslims and non Muslim living in the Uk that there is open discussion of areas of friction.

I agree wıth that. Only problem ıs who you talk to. Eastern Muslıms tend to mıx culture wıth relıgıon and then swear that thıs ıs Islam. Lıke most people on thıs websıte.

cheers

[jinnzaman]

Its interesting how almost every single one of your posts in the past few hours have been about the same point.

[shadha]

roberto: Woops you’re showing that inferiority complex again.




shadha-

[psychoteddybear]

jinnzaman said

Its interesting how almost every single one of your posts in the past few hours have been about the same point.

yes ıt ıs ınterestıng ısnt ıt ? wonder why?

[roberto]

shadha said

roberto: Woops you’re showing that inferiority complex again.




shadha-

Explain please

[wheelworks]

roberto said

Explain please

Can't, it's one of those thingamajigs that only an outside observer can see

[Nazfreak]

roberto said

You are obliviously not very bright,

bwahahahahahaha

Pot, meet kettle.