[roberto]

Independent.co.uk
Failed suicide bomber's wife jailed for 15 years
PA
Thursday, 12 June 2008


The wife of failed suicide bomber Hussain Osman was jailed for 15 years today for failing to tell police of his plans for "carnage and mass murder".


Muslim convert Yeshi Girma, 32, knew of his plot to kill innocent Tube passengers on 21 July 2005 and could have stopped it going ahead.


It was only the botched bomb-making of Osman and his fellow terrorists that saved a repeat of the carnage wreaked on 7 July, two weeks before.


Just over half an hour after his failed attack on Shepherd's Bush Tube station, Osman was on the phone to his wife to set in motion an escape plan.


Yeshi, the mother of Osman's three sons, helped him flee to Brighton before he took a Eurostar to Paris and ended up in Rome, where he was arrested.


Yesterday she was found guilty of having information about terrorism and failing to disclose it "without reasonable excuse".


Judge Paul Worsley told her: "You already shared Osman's extreme views on Islam and co-ordinated the escape plan for the father of your three children after he failed to achieve his sought-after place in paradise."


Her brother Esayas Girma, 22, and sister Mulu Girma, 24, whom she enlisted to help her escape plan, were jailed for 10 years.


Yeshi and Esayas, both from Stockwell, south London, and Mulu, from Brighton, were all found guilty yesterday of assisting an offender and failing to disclose information about Osman's involvement in the 21 July attacks.


Mulu's boyfriend Mohamed Kabashi, 25, from Brighton, admitted assisting Osman and failing to disclose information before the trial began.


He was jailed for nine years.

Yeshi sobbed throughout the hearing and raised her hands to the air as she was sentenced. She had to be helped from the dock as she was taken down.

The judge told the four: "When Osman's suicide mission, aimed at mass slaughter, failed, each of you in different ways assisted him to escape justice so that he could flee to Italy to be able to strike again."


If they had told police what they knew and he had been arrested earlier, the death of Jean Charles de Menezes in Stockwell on 22 July could have been avoided, the judge said.


The innocent Brazilian was gunned down by armed police looking for Osman in the wake of the 21 July attacks.


Judge Worsley said the sentences he was able to impose were "woefully inadequate to reflect the enormity of what you were about in July 2005".


"I have no doubt that each of you were prepared to aid a ruthless fanatic and that in so doing each of you must have harboured the hope that the bombers would ultimately be successful in their mission to seek to damage our society."


He told the four their sentences would reflect public "condemnation" of their actions and aim to "deter others minded to act as you did".


The judge added: "You did not encourage Osman in his fanatical mission but fell under his evil spell."

Failed suicide bomber's wife jailed for 15 years - Crime, UK - The Independent

[Rambo]

if this is true then its good

[Jamroll]

I don't think that's right. She didn't commit the crime. It was her husband. Poor show.

[Rambo]

Originally Posted by Jamroll

I don't think that's right. She didn't commit the crime. It was her husband. Poor show.

common but she knew the whole thing, i think its the right decision

[roberto]

Originally Posted by Jamroll

I don't think that's right. She didn't commit the crime. It was her husband. Poor show.

Oh don't you , this was the crime she was charged with and proven guilty,which crime are you refering to?

[Jamroll]

Originally Posted by roberto

Oh don't you , this was the crime she was charged with and proven guilty,which crime are you refering to?

The crime of the attempted suicide bombing.

Originally Posted by Rambo

common but she knew the whole thing, i think its the right decision

Well firstly, on what basis is it the right decision? Lots of people know about crimes that might take place, like robbery, assault, murder, fraud, whatever. Do we prosecute and convict all of them? We don't, so on what principle is this crime of knowing about something bad?

For example, if you knew that roberto was going to assault me, and you stayed quiet about it, should you be prosecuted for it? I mean, you didn't assault me, he did. Why should you be punished for it?

[roberto]

Sorry, I really have messed up on this one, here is what the post should have been.

Oh don't you, this was the crime she was charged with "failing to tell police of his plans for "carnage and mass murder" which crime are you refering to?

[Rambo]

Originally Posted by Jamroll

The crime of the attempted suicide bombing.



Well firstly, on what basis is it the right decision? Lots of people know about crimes that might take place, like robbery, assault, murder, fraud, whatever. Do we prosecute and convict all of them? We don't, so on what principle is this crime of knowing about something bad?

For example, if you knew that roberto was going to assault me, and you stayed quiet about it, should you be prosecuted for it? I mean, you didn't assault me, he did. Why should you be punished for it?

she knew that her husband was going to commit mass murder possibly killing thousands of people. it is clear your just defending her because she is a muslim. I think its a perfectly right decision

[Jamroll]

Originally Posted by Rambo

she knew that her husband was going to commit mass murder possibly killing thousands of people. it is clear your just defending her because she is a muslim. I think its a perfectly right decision

No her being Muslim has little to do with it for me. I'd have the same view if she was Christian or Buddhist or atheist. I'm talking about the principle here. Anyway you didn't answer the question I asked.

[roberto]

[quote=Jamroll;159425]

The crime of the attempted suicide bombing.

She was not so charged

Well firstly, on what basis is it the right decision? Lots of people know about crimes that might take place, like robbery, assault, murder, fraud, whatever. Do we prosecute and convict all of them? We don't, so on what principle is this crime of knowing about something bad?

Withholding information from the police in relation to the planning and or execution of an offence is in it’s self an offence

For example, if you knew that roberto was going to assault me, and you stayed quiet about it, should you be prosecuted for it? I mean, you didn't assault me, he did. Why should you be punished for it

Why do I have the feeling you will recieve support on this

[Rambo]

if you were going to be seriously assaulted ofcourse i will tell, why would i be a coward and not tell? and if i didn't tell i would expect the justice to punish me. its only normal. What your saying is not justful, your just acting out of emotion. If a person doesn;t come forward with information that could possibly save thousands of peoples lives, the punishment for that person must be harsh and i think its a right punishment

[Rambo]

in any other country she would get a harsh punishment, imagine if your family was to be killed because of this one stupid person, would you still defend her then?

[Jamroll]

Look, even if we accept that a crime has been accepted, 15 years is too long. 15 years is a life sentence in the UK. And that's for murder. Her husband is being done for attempted murder. Attempted murder carries a lesser sentence than actual murder.

So she is being given the same sentence as a convicted murderer would receive - a life sentence. That doesn't sound fair to me.

[roberto]

Originally Posted by Jamroll

Look, even if we accept that a crime has been accepted, 15 years is too long. 15 years is a life sentence in the UK. And that's for murder. Her husband is being done for attempted murder. Attempted murder carries a lesser sentence than actual murder.

So she is being given the same sentence as a convicted murderer would receive - a life sentence. That doesn't sound fair to me.

Think about the numbers involved

[Bluestar]

There have been child rapists that have been given lighter sentences. They want to make an example out of her. I totally agree that what she did was wrong, i don't think it would have prevented the death of Charles de Menezes, that was the fault of the policeman who shot him.