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PESHAWAR, Pakistan - U.S.-led coalition forces along the volatile Afghan border launched an airstrike that killed 11 Pakistani paramilitary troops, Pakistan's army said Wednesday. The military condemned it as an act of aggression within Pakistan's border that "hit at the very basis of cooperation" in the war on terrorism.

The incident late Tuesday followed a reported clash between Afghan forces and Taliban militants in the same area. The Taliban said eight of its fighters died in the skirmish.

The Pakistani army said the coalition airstrike hit a post of the paramilitary Frontier Corps and was a "completely unprovoked and cowardly act."

It launched a strong protest and reserved "the right to protect our citizens and soldiers against aggression," the military said in a statement. The statement said the clash in the Mohmand tribal region "had hit at the very basis of cooperation" between the allies in the war on terror.

In Washington, a Pentagon official said there was an airstrike Tuesday night during an incursion by insurgents into Afghanistan from Pakistan. Coalition forces responded to the attack, and during the battle there was at least one airstrike, the official said, noting that information on the incident was still sketchy. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak on the record.

He said that initial reports indicated that during the firefight, the insurgents fled and were pursued by two U.S. aircraft. The aircraft launched an airstrike under a policy that allows coalition forces to cross over the border into Pakistan if they are in hot pursuit of a target, he said.

Other defense officials in the U.S. referred calls to the U.S. Embassy in Pakistan, saying the subject was very sensitive.

The lawless and remote mountain region is difficult for reporters to access and there were conflicting reports over the sequence of events and how many died in the fighting. The region is believed to be used by pro-Taliban militants as a launch pad for attacks into Afghanistan.

That infiltration is a constant source of tension in the counterrorism alliance. Pakistan has deployed tens of thousands of troops to police its tribal regions, but Western and Afghan officials say that has not deterred militants. Afghanistan often accuses Pakistan of abetting the Taliban, whose hardline regime it supported until its ouster in 2001.

A report published Monday warned of crippling long-term consequences for the U.S. in Afghanistan if insurgent hideouts in Pakistan are not eliminated. The U.S. Defense Department-funded RAND Corp.'s report said some active and former officials in Pakistan's intelligence service and the Frontier Corps directly aided Taliban militants. Pakistan denounced the report as a "smear campaign."

Pakistani officials said the fighting broke out Tuesday after Afghan troops tried to set up a mountaintop post in a contested part of the lawless frontier and Pakistani security forces told them to withdraw.

Local tribesman Damagh Khan Mohmand said the Afghan forces had moved into the area around Speena Sooka, or White Peak, on Monday evening and were supported by foreign troops. There was no confirmation of that from the U.S.-led coalition or NATO security force in Afghanistan.

Khan Mohmand said tribesmen traded fire with the Afghan and foreign forces, and said Pakistani security forces also opened fire — although the military disputed that.

Khan Mohmand said he saw drones and that two aircraft had bombed several locations.

Maulvi Umar, a spokesman for an umbrella group of Pakistani Taliban, said militants had resisted an incursion into Pakistan.

He said between 60 and 100 of its fighters attacked NATO and Afghan army troops who had set up bunkers and tents on Pakistani soil. He claimed up to 40 Afghan troops were killed, several captured and that a NATO helicopter was shot down. Eight Taliban troops also died in the fighting, he said.

None of his claims could be independently confirmed.

State-run Pakistan Television said 18 people died in the fighting, including 10 troops and eight civilians. It reported that Afghan and foreign forces had tried to set up a military post and were resisted by tribesmen. A NATO airstrike then struck a Pakistani military post, PTV said.

Officials in Afghanistan all declined comment.

NATO in Afghanistan referred inquiries to the U.S. military whose spokeswoman, Lt. Col. Rumi Nielson-Green, referred calls on reports of an airstrike to the U.S. Embassy in Pakistan. The embassy also declined comment. The Afghan Ministry of Defense said it had no information on the incident.

On Wednesday, two helicopters brought the bodies of 11 troops killed and another 13 soldiers wounded in the fighting to Peshawar, the main city in northwestern Pakistan, a military intelligence official said on condition of anonymity because he is not allowed to comment to the media. Witnesses said seven ambulances shifted the casualties to a military hospital in the city.

North West Frontier Province Gov. Owais Ahmed Ghani told reporters later at a funeral ceremony for the troops that such an attack "can compel us to review our policy (in the war on terror)."

Anti-U.S. sentiment is already running high in Pakistan, where the newly elected civilian rulers are seeking to broker peace with militants to curb an explosion in extremist violence.

Western officials are concerned that peace deals could give more space for Taliban and al-Qaida militants to operate.

The U.S. has in the past used unmanned drones to attack suspected militants inside Pakistan.

Pakistan does not allow foreign troops to conduct military operations on its territory. It says aerial attacks launched from Afghanistan are a violation of its sovereignty.

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Associated Press writers Habibullah Khan in Khar, Munir Ahmad in Islamabad and Jason Straziuso in Kabul, Afghanistan, and Pauline Jelinek in Washington contributed to this report.

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Ajeeb.

Why do the Americans keep blaming Pakistan for not controlling cross-border militants? Why don't they just kill them as they cross the border or kill them after the conduct their attacks?

If Pakistan allows America into the region, several revolts will probably erupt all over the country - the largest of which will most likely be the Pathan areas - and all of this will create further regional instability on par with Iraq.

The US military and government could use a good ethic class - preferably utilitarianism.
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PESHAWAR, Pakistan - U.S.-led coalition forces along the volatile Afghan border launched an airstrike that killed 11 Pakistani paramilitary troops, Pakistan's army said Wednesday. The military condemned it as an act of aggression within Pakistan's border that "hit at the very basis of cooperation" in the war on terrorism.

The incident late Tuesday followed a reported clash between Afghan forces and Taliban militants in the same area. The Taliban said eight of its fighters died in the skirmish.

The Pakistani army said the coalition airstrike hit a post of the paramilitary Frontier Corps and was a "completely unprovoked and cowardly act."

It launched a strong protest and reserved "the right to protect our citizens and soldiers against aggression," the military said in a statement. The statement said the clash in the Mohmand tribal region "had hit at the very basis of cooperation" between the allies in the war on terror.

In Washington, a Pentagon official said there was an airstrike Tuesday night during an incursion by insurgents into Afghanistan from Pakistan. Coalition forces responded to the attack, and during the battle there was at least one airstrike, the official said, noting that information on the incident was still sketchy. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak on the record.

He said that initial reports indicated that during the firefight, the insurgents fled and were pursued by two U.S. aircraft. The aircraft launched an airstrike under a policy that allows coalition forces to cross over the border into Pakistan if they are in hot pursuit of a target, he said.

Other defense officials in the U.S. referred calls to the U.S. Embassy in Pakistan, saying the subject was very sensitive.

The lawless and remote mountain region is difficult for reporters to access and there were conflicting reports over the sequence of events and how many died in the fighting. The region is believed to be used by pro-Taliban militants as a launch pad for attacks into Afghanistan.

That infiltration is a constant source of tension in the counterrorism alliance. Pakistan has deployed tens of thousands of troops to police its tribal regions, but Western and Afghan officials say that has not deterred militants. Afghanistan often accuses Pakistan of abetting the Taliban, whose hardline regime it supported until its ouster in 2001.

A report published Monday warned of crippling long-term consequences for the U.S. in Afghanistan if insurgent hideouts in Pakistan are not eliminated. The U.S. Defense Department-funded RAND Corp.'s report said some active and former officials in Pakistan's intelligence service and the Frontier Corps directly aided Taliban militants. Pakistan denounced the report as a "smear campaign."

Pakistani officials said the fighting broke out Tuesday after Afghan troops tried to set up a mountaintop post in a contested part of the lawless frontier and Pakistani security forces told them to withdraw.

Local tribesman Damagh Khan Mohmand said the Afghan forces had moved into the area around Speena Sooka, or White Peak, on Monday evening and were supported by foreign troops. There was no confirmation of that from the U.S.-led coalition or NATO security force in Afghanistan.

Khan Mohmand said tribesmen traded fire with the Afghan and foreign forces, and said Pakistani security forces also opened fire — although the military disputed that.

Khan Mohmand said he saw drones and that two aircraft had bombed several locations.

Maulvi Umar, a spokesman for an umbrella group of Pakistani Taliban, said militants had resisted an incursion into Pakistan.

He said between 60 and 100 of its fighters attacked NATO and Afghan army troops who had set up bunkers and tents on Pakistani soil. He claimed up to 40 Afghan troops were killed, several captured and that a NATO helicopter was shot down. Eight Taliban troops also died in the fighting, he said.

None of his claims could be independently confirmed.

State-run Pakistan Television said 18 people died in the fighting, including 10 troops and eight civilians. It reported that Afghan and foreign forces had tried to set up a military post and were resisted by tribesmen. A NATO airstrike then struck a Pakistani military post, PTV said.

Officials in Afghanistan all declined comment.

NATO in Afghanistan referred inquiries to the U.S. military whose spokeswoman, Lt. Col. Rumi Nielson-Green, referred calls on reports of an airstrike to the U.S. Embassy in Pakistan. The embassy also declined comment. The Afghan Ministry of Defense said it had no information on the incident.

On Wednesday, two helicopters brought the bodies of 11 troops killed and another 13 soldiers wounded in the fighting to Peshawar, the main city in northwestern Pakistan, a military intelligence official said on condition of anonymity because he is not allowed to comment to the media. Witnesses said seven ambulances shifted the casualties to a military hospital in the city.

North West Frontier Province Gov. Owais Ahmed Ghani told reporters later at a funeral ceremony for the troops that such an attack "can compel us to review our policy (in the war on terror)."

Anti-U.S. sentiment is already running high in Pakistan, where the newly elected civilian rulers are seeking to broker peace with militants to curb an explosion in extremist violence.

Western officials are concerned that peace deals could give more space for Taliban and al-Qaida militants to operate.

The U.S. has in the past used unmanned drones to attack suspected militants inside Pakistan.

Pakistan does not allow foreign troops to conduct military operations on its territory. It says aerial attacks launched from Afghanistan are a violation of its sovereignty.

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Associated Press writers Habibullah Khan in Khar, Munir Ahmad in Islamabad and Jason Straziuso in Kabul, Afghanistan, and Pauline Jelinek in Washington contributed to this report.

Pakistan blames US coalition for troops' death - Yahoo! News
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They shouldn't be allowed to do this "hot pursuit" thing. Pakistan is sovereign territory. Once anyone crosses over the border into Pakistan, the only jurisdiction is the Pakistani authorities, no one else's.
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They shouldn't be allowed to do this "hot pursuit" thing. Pakistan is sovereign territory. Once anyone crosses over the border into Pakistan, the only jurisdiction is the Pakistani authorities, no one else's.
Washington says this hazy footage from a surveillance aircraft shows insurgents attacking coalition forces inside Afghanistan on the Pakistan border.
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Washington says this hazy footage from a surveillance aircraft shows insurgents attacking coalition forces inside Afghanistan on the Pakistan border.
Right, but if you read the accompanying article, it states that the insurgents crossed into Pakistan and were then killed.

The military isn't denying it killed people within Pakistan, but they're denying the claim that troops were killed. The purpose of the video was to show that no Pakistani soldiers were killed.
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