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You guys are going around in circles.
And I predict will continue to do so. 
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I think what's important to remember at this juncture is that going round in circles, and continuing fighting for no reason is imperative. We must do it!!!!!
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You guys are going around in circles.
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Yes bluey, I'm calling you out. Offer your opinions! "Miss Headscarf" or "No Miss Headscarf"
Answer! Or perish!! 
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So by the above, I assume you also agree that women know not to participate in a "Miss Headscarf" contest?
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From what I could tell they are wearing proper hijab and aren't showing skin that shouldn't be shown. So this becomes a topic of people of various cultures and backgrounds having varying definitions of modesty...and like I already implied, I am not about to discuss Muslim women's modesty issues with a man....especially one like yourself.
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Again, this is a topic of people of various cultures and backgrounds having varying definitions of modesty...and like I already implied, I am not about to discuss Muslim women's modesty issues with a man....especially one like yourself.
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Discuss in the thread. Dont discuss with me. This is a women issue. You have a right to voice your opinon. Lets go. Voice!!! Tell the women how Islam has varying definitions of modesty and how this contest is "modestful"
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i like cookies with colorful M&M candies. does that make me immodest? would i attract too much attention? is it immodest if a brother sees me eating a colorful cookie?
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Yes bluey, I'm calling you out. Offer your opinions! "Miss Headscarf" or "No Miss Headscarf"
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I exhausted myself last time. I'm not going to fall for this trickery again.
I'd rather die honourably then fall for this again!
[Stupid thread]
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i like cookies with colorful M&M candies. does that make me immodest? would i attract too much attention? is it immodest if a brother sees me eating a colorful cookie?
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Yes, Sister. Please refrain from telling us you like cookies. 
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I exhausted myself last time. I'm not going to fall for this trickey again.
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You lie! All your posts ended with "???" and "I dont know". Give your fellow women a blanket opinion!!!
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One more question before I leave this stupid thread. Actually a repeat question. Why are you going on about modesty when you have included a very immodest play on an Islamican sister's screen name in your signature?
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with all due respect sister, I dont think theres any doubt that in traditional cultures young women would be very stridently discouraged from participating in a beauty or fashion contest (to say the least). Hijab or no hijab. I am sure that this applies to the traditional cultures of the Maghreb where many danish muslims come from, and it also applies to traditional turkish culture which was always very jealous of its women. I understand that women in denmark are free to do as they wish, and it isnt my place or anybody's place to judge them. As a matter of fact, I think this contest is a very nice gesture because its coming from a mainstream broadcast network that chose to reach out to muslim youth. However, having said that, you have to acknowledge that this is something that goes against tradition, and probably goes against the tradition of wherever you come from as well! The sarcasm doesnt seem to be warranted, nobody is saying anything too outrageous.
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One more question before I leave this stupid thread. Actually a repeat question. Why are you going on about modesty when you have included a very immodest play on an Islamican sister's screen name in your signature?
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Its traditional?   
But in all seriousness, it was done in jest. You're the fourth person to comment about it. The mods havent complained. But the joke has run its course. I'm in the process of a better stupid joke.
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You lie! All your posts ended with "???" and "I dont know". Give your fellow women a blanket opinion!!!
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Those were rhetorical questions.
Alhamdulilah it was okay. Could've been better.
On a serious note, I think the previous thread shouldn't have been deleted. It contained different various opinions and thoughts which I think were good posts. It's silly to be going on about this again and again when its already been discussed to a certain extent. But I guess that is Islamica.
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Those were rhetorical questions.
Alhamdulilah it was okay. Could've been better.
On a serious note, I think the previous thread shouldn't have been deleted. It contained different various opinions and thoughts which I think were good posts. It's silly to be going on about this again and again when its already been discussed to a certain extent. But I guess that is Islamica.
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It also had pictures of women butts. I thought it was very very idiotic to have those in a thread speaking of something completely opposite. If you approve of women butt pictures, I apologize for deleting it. Else you should give me reps for doing the right thing!
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salam
with all due respect sister, I dont think theres any doubt that in traditional cultures young women would be very stridently discouraged from participating in a beauty or fashion contest (to say the least). Hijab or no hijab. I am sure that this applies to the traditional cultures of the Maghreb where many danish muslims come from, and it also applies to traditional turkish culture which was always very jealous of its women. I understand that women in denmark are free to do as they wish, and it isnt my place or anybody's place to judge them. As a matter of fact, I think this contest is a very nice gesture because its coming from a mainstream broadcast network that chose to reach out to muslim youth. However, having said that, you have to acknowledge that this is something that goes against tradition, and probably goes against the tradition of wherever you come from as well! The sarcasm doesnt seem to be warranted, nobody is saying anything too outrageous.
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wsalaam,
i agree. and i stated as such in the thread that was deleted. also, i'd like to thank you for asking me politely and respectfully.
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