[ShotgunMessiah]

Originally Posted by AbuSadiq

It is always shocking to hear that apparently Muslim and hijabi girls are adopting the Western lifestyles and habits and having guy friends. It is IMPOSSIBLE for a man and a woman to just be friends - there is always shaytan who is the third in such a friendship and the man always thinks of the woman as someone of the opposite gender, someone whose beauty is there to judge and rate, and someone to have "fun" with (not necessarily sexual) and someone to lust over.

What is wrong with you?

And I hope that is not your picture in your profile for all of Islamica to look at!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wow, chill dude.

[Rambo]

whats going on? i didn't find anything wrong with what abu sadiq said? what did he say wrong which is islamically correct?

Muslims girls can't have guy friends

[thejellymill]

Originally Posted by AbuSadiq

It is always shocking to hear that apparently Muslim and hijabi girls are adopting the Western lifestyles and habits and having guy friends. It is IMPOSSIBLE for a man and a woman to just be friends - there is always shaytan who is the third in such a friendship and the man always thinks of the woman as someone of the opposite gender, someone whose beauty is there to judge and rate, and someone to have "fun" with (not necessarily sexual) and someone to lust over.

What is wrong with you?

God....not another newbie troll. Whose alterego is this NOW?

AbuSadiq: Crazy and judgMENTAL much?! Living in "The West" has helped a lot of Muslims get back to the sunnah instead of living back home in those restrictive, repressive, OPPRESSIVE "Muslim countries." Despite the fact that you probably cannot control your feelings every time any sort of female walks by, other people have something called self control....and manners. How dare you ask somebody you dont even know "what is wrong with you?" Go get a freaking life.

Originally Posted by displaced

I don't have many male friends. although I find that male friendships can have their pitfalls, guys are easier to deal with than girls. you guys don't pull the crap girls do..all the gossiping and backstabbing and cattiness.

Yes I agree. A lot of guys are much easier to be friends with. I have this one good guy friend...I dont have his number, he's not on my facebook....but we'll all go out in a group to dinner or for study group, we talk in class, we joke around etc etc. What's wrong with it? NOTHING!! And actually it's dawah in some cases because he is always asking me and my friend about Islam and as a result he's really interested and has gone to the mosque once already. And even if he doesn't convert at least he is one less Islamophobe

[Sugarberry]

Originally Posted by Rambo

whats going on? i didn't find anything wrong with what abu sadiq said? what did he say wrong which is islamically correct?

Muslims girls can't have guy friends

and muslim guys?

[IbnMardhiyah]

Originally Posted by thejellymill

I used to think whenever I'd come to Islamica I'd get the latest news before hearing it anywhere else. lol. This story has been on cnn.com for almost 2 days now.

Yeah, same.

I saw it on MSNBC two days ago as well

[Rambo]

you guys are misinterpeting abu sadiq, what he said is correct, yes he should have been more polite but tell me how is he wrong islamically?

[IbnMardhiyah]

Originally Posted by thejellymill

AbuSadiq: Crazy and judgMENTAL much?! Living in "The West" has helped a lot of Muslims get back to the sunnah instead of living back home in those restrictive, repressive, OPPRESSIVE "Muslim countries." Despite the fact that you probably cannot control your feelings every time any sort of female walks by, other people have something called self control....and manners. How dare you ask somebody you dont even know "what is wrong with you?" Go get a freaking life.

Dammit. gotta spread.

[Rambo]

Originally Posted by Sugarberry

and muslim guys?

yes both ways you can;t be friends with opposite sex, islamically that is.

but ofcourse these days almost all muslims break the rules

[MossadConspiracy]

this could only work if the girl is ugly, and even then its unlikely to work

[ShahRukh]

One boy one girl living in a dorm...i dont see how it becoming a norm anytime soon.

Originally Posted by displaced

I don't have many male friends. although I find that male friendships can have their pitfalls, guys are easier to deal with than girls. you guys don't pull the crap girls do..all the gossiping and backstabbing and cattiness.

lol...that is sooo true. I think that applies to muslim girls a lot more than non-muslim ones...

I find that desi/arab muslim girls are pure drama...a great deal of them.

not to mention, the pseudo-religious pseudo-practicing girls are the most confusing drama queens ever....one week they're feeling too religious and will not talk to guys and suddenly delete them from msn, facebook, etc., and the next week they turn 180' and start chilling with guys, hanging out without any hesitation, doing things they wouldn't do the previous week...


I mean, either dont talk to guys at all, or draw a line, develop your comfort zone, be professional in your conduct, and give us all a break...

[IbnMardhiyah]

Originally Posted by ShahRukh

not to mention, the pseudo-religious pseudo-practicing girls are the most confusing drama queens ever....one week they're feeling too religious and will not talk to guys and suddenly delete them from msn, facebook, etc., and the next week they turn 180' and start chilling with guys, hanging out without any hesitation, doing things they wouldn't do the previous week...

A world without drama and bread-and-circuses would be pretty boring, yo.

[thejellymill]

Originally Posted by ShahRukh

lol...that is sooo true. I think that applies to muslim girls a lot more than non-muslim ones...

I find that desi/arab muslim girls are pure drama...a great deal of them.

I agree. And that is why, sadly, most of my friends are non-Muslim (semi-religious or religious Christians). Not that I don't love them and all but it would be nice to have more Muslimah friends too, people I can relate to more.

[Variable]

Originally Posted by pathani

what a load of nonsense.

even if they're not doing anything, they'll still be thinking about it which will probabaly lead TO it. it's the way things are and the way we're made.

“No man is alone with a woman but the shaytaan is the third one present.” [Narrated by Ahmad, al-Tirmidhi and al-Haakim; classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Jaami’ (2546)].

Uh no... no it's not nonsense at all, it's my experience. Because it lands well outside the realm of your conceivable experience doesn't make it nonsensical.

Having done a lot of backpacking and traveling, I've often stayed in the same room, tent or even bed as a girl (sometimes two ) out of necessity. And brace yourself... we never even 'almost' had sex. It wasn't hard either...even when we kind of liked each other. In most cases if Shaytaan was the third, he would have had to be holding a gun to my head to get anything to happen.

I'm not saying it could never lead to sex, for sure - but you know when it would and when it's wouldn't and that is the exception, not the rule. When people aren't constantly on guard and uptight about relations with the opposite gender, something magical happens... the Shaytaan thing by and large dissappears.

[thejellymill]

Variable: if I could I'd give you rep again.

And where's the link I asked you for in the other thread?

[IbnMardhiyah]

Originally Posted by Variable

... I've often stayed in the same room, tent or even bed as a girl ...

Very. Interesting.